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Co-planting roses with marigolds

I've read that planting marigolds next to newly planted roses can help them establish better as the marigold kills nematodes that attack the rose new roots. Anyone tried or heard about this?

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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Sounds like nonsense to me. Never heard it before.
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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I always plant French marigolds and basil amongst the tomato plants in my greenhouse and have never had a problem with any pests on them.

    I think there's some evidence that mycorrhizal fungi can help to establish newly planted roses and shrubs, but the jury is still out on that one.
    I used it when I planted a rose where I dug another rose out and whilst it hasn't grown as vigorously as the other 2 identical roses it's doing well enough.


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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Tagetes erecta, the African or Mexican Marigold, has been shown by science to restore the health of soils where roses have been grown previously, ready for new plantings, so they don't succumb to rose replant disease..
    I'm not aware of any benefit in the way you describe though..  if the soil is a friable loam,  and has not grown roses, apples or pyracanthas recently, then you shouldn't need any amendments, or Marigolds..
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  • SwedboySwedboy Posts: 394
    There has been roses where we planted these for decades.
    They are not growing very fast or well. Partly because we are at the summer house for a couple of weeks each year. At least they survived year one.

    The idea comes from some Swedish gardening sites and it seemed an easy thing to try 
  • SalixGoldSalixGold Posts: 450
    Swedboy said:
    I've read that planting marigolds next to newly planted roses can help them establish better as the marigold kills nematodes that attack the rose new roots. Anyone tried or heard about this?
    Very specific Tagetes can help - Nemamix. The evidence suggest planting the ground with these months before planting with roses can help.

    https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-sunday-telegraph-sunday/20210228/281865826199592

  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Ok if you have yellow and orange roses,  if not you’ve got a horrible colour clash. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • SalixGoldSalixGold Posts: 450
    I think the idea is that you plant them before the roses - to prepare the soil.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    ‘There has been roses where we planted these for decades. They are not growing very fast or well’ 

    Your new roses are very likely suffering from Rose Replant Disease. There are simple methods to prevent it, by digging out the soil and replacing it with soil from another part of the garden that hasn’t had roses/rose family shrubs in there before. Dusting the roots of the new roses with mycorrhizal fungi when planting is also said to help counteract it. I tend to do both things, belt and braces.

    I’m not sure anything you add to the soil or marigolds planted around retrospectively will help - you would’ve needed to do that to clean the soil in advance as Marlorena explained.

    I believe roses can eventually grow out of RRD, but if it were me I would think, ok, lesson learnt, dispose of them, prepare the soil properly and then plant new bare root roses in autumn/winter.
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