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What is the difference between summer fruiting and autumn fruiting raspberries?

elderberryelderberry Posts: 118
in Fruit & veg

I know you have to prune them differently, because summer fruiting canes fruit on last year's growth, but I've heard it suggested that the two types of raspberry are in fact the same, and it's only the pruning that makes any difference

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  • Slow-wormSlow-worm Posts: 1,630
    No idea, cos mine fruits in summer and autumn. I cut it back last autumn as it went a bit raggy, and it's not doing brilliantly this year. It's about 13 years old though, and I don't know how long they last, so I'm pretty useless here really. 😄
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    My summer fruiting are just forming now,  as soon as they’ve finished I will cut all the stems that had fruit,  right back to ground,  they’ll have new green shoots,  that’s for next years fruit. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    Percieved wisdom is that summer fruiters form on last years wood, so the wood that has fruited this year is cut out after fruiting in summer , and the new shoots left to fruit next year.
    With autumn fruiters, you can cut them to the ground in January, the new shoots formed this year will fruit this autumn.
     However , if you have Polka, if you shear them to the ground in January 2022, new shoots fruit in autumn 2022 but badly because it was dry, they didn't get hacked down in Jan 2023, and are about to give a bumper harvest. I will then cut out the fruited ones this summer, and let the new shoots that are coming up now fruit in Autumn.   Ideal for lazy gardeners.

  • purplerallimpurplerallim Posts: 5,287
    edited June 2023
    My summer fruits have another difference. When picking summer ones the receptacle stays in the fruit, in the autumn ones the fruit pulls off the receptacle. ( center)
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    My summer ones pull right out leaving the receptacle.  I don’t know what type they are, had them for years Glen something or other. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • AuntyRachAuntyRach Posts: 5,291
    I have a mystery raspberry then.
    My fruits form on new growth but are ready in July??! It leaves it centre bit too. 
    It’s probably one of those raspberry-like plant I suspect. I inherited it nestled in a messy border so no label.  


    My garden and I live in South Wales. 
  • war garden 572war garden 572 Posts: 664
    there are also two season fruiting raspberry that fruit in summer and fall. 
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited June 2023
    I grow Joan J (autumn fruiting).
    First berries are ready in July and the harvest builds to a peak throughout Aug and Sept then trails off in Oct/Nov.
    I had Glen Moy as an early variety (June) but that got a virus so I replaced them with Malling Jewel last autumn. This is their first year, so the canes are only 2ft. I should get a few berries in 2-3 weeks.

    Maybe you have the same variety @AuntyRach - Joan J


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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