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Daphne's not doing well

Colin-JacksonColin-Jackson Posts: 31
edited June 2023 in Problem solving


I bought a pair of Eternal Fragrance Daphne's last year and potted them up in gritty alpine compost.

They survived the winter but one is looking very poorly. Most of the leaves are yellow with just a tiny flush of new growth.

The other is doing better but not exactly thriving. I have been trying not to over water them. Any ideas on how to perk them up?

Many thanks,
Colin

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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Can I ask why you've put them in 'gritty alpine compost'?
    They grow into large shrubs and need decent soil to be healthy. Some grit added to a soil based compost is fine, but there has to be enough sustenance for the to grow on.  :)

    The pots look rather big for the size of the plants too, and the main stems are buried which won't help. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • I thought alpine compost would be free draining and might suit them.

    Will report them into some richer compost with more stem exposed and hope for the best.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Use a soil-based compost to re-pot them not a multi purpose compost (which is only designed for short-term planting).
    Something like 60% John Innes (soil/loam-based No 2 or No 3), 30% multi-purpose compost (you could reuse your alpine compost for this) and about 10-15% horticultural grit to ensure good drainage.

    I'd read how fussy they are but I took the plunge and bought a Tangutica in 2016 and planted it. I give it no special attention, rarely water it in the summer droughts even though it's baked in the sun and often have to chop chunks off as it grows quite fast.
    It just carries on growing and flowering.
    I only wish I'd not planted it at the end of my garden.

    Billericay - Essex

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  • Thanks all,

    I have just repotted these into a John Innes based compost. What really surprised me was how tiny the rootballs were. They had been in these pots for almost a year but the rootball was only about 10cm across at most 

    Will water and feed them once a week while keeping my fingers crossed.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited June 2023
    Were the roots all tightly wrapped together?
    If so you may need to untangle the roots and spread them out a bit.

    Once roots wrap together into a tight ball they find it difficult to untangle themselves, so you may need to give them a hand.

    They won't need feeding weekly.
    Once a month will be plenty - seaweed extract would be perfect for them

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • The roots were not overly tight, I would best describe them as sparse. I did tease them out while removed a lot of the old compost. I know Daphne's hate having their roots disturbed, but it seemed the lesser of two evils in this case.

    Fair point about the feed, will tone it down to once a month. 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    If the rootballs were so small, they'd have been better in much smaller pots, but it's probably not a good idea to move them again. I'd keep them in semi shade while they're so small.
    All shrubs take a long time to establish, especially tiny ones like those. They need a few years to develop the root system before the top then catches up.  :)

    I wouldn't feed them, because the soil mix should be adequate for a while, but many people like to use seaweed or slow release general food. Water is key over the next few months though.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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