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'Wild' rose

Lyn Plant-WellsLyn Plant-Wells Posts: 338
edited June 2023 in Plants
This rose appeared in my border last year. It was very tiny but this year it has gone berserk.it doesn't appear to have any buds so if it's going to take over and not flower I will take it out. It has vicious thorns!  Text posted before I added photo!
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  • Lyn Plant-WellsLyn Plant-Wells Posts: 338
    edited June 2023



    Not sure why photo is sideways!
  • bertrand-mabelbertrand-mabel Posts: 2,697
    We were given a rose for our 25th wedding anniversary. Unfortunately the gifted part died back and the part that it had been grafted onto grew. It is a dog wood rose and yes it has become very large but it is in a space that is OK. It is in flower now, small white flowers and hundreds of them. In the autumn it has the red rose hips (never been brave enough to try and make any rose hip syrup).
  • Lyn Plant-WellsLyn Plant-Wells Posts: 338
    This rose isn't near any others so isn't from a rootstock. Above this one on a pergola is a Montana and Wisteria so no space for a wild rambler. 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I don’t really understand what you mean when you say ‘This rose isn't near any others so isn't from a rootstock’, Lyn. Pretty much all roses for sale in the UK and indeed the vast majority in Europe are grafted plants using rosa canina ‘laxa’ as a rootstock. If it was planted at some point, by a predecessor perhaps, what @bertrand-mabel describes, with only the rootstock surviving and taking over is certainly a possibility.

    Some close-up photos of the rose stems, thorns, leaves etc., would help to rule that in or out because it’s hard to see it in your photo. Laxa doesn’t usually have many thorns, though, which makes me think it could well be something else..
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    It's quite possible that your rose is a self seeded one that has been brought by the birds.
    Lyn Plant-Wells said:
    This rose appeared in my border last year. It was very tiny but this year it has gone berserk.it doesn't appear to have any buds so if it's going to take over and not flower I will take it out. It has vicious thorns!  Text posted before I added photo!


  • Lyn Plant-WellsLyn Plant-Wells Posts: 338
    The area the rose appeared in was previously paved - there was no flower bed or plants. I created the border 3 years ago, 6 months after I moved to the property.
    The plant was very tiny to begin with but has just taken off over the last month.
    I read somewhere that some wild roses never flower. My garden is very small so I don't want plants that don't really do anything. 
    Here are more photos. The last photo is my 2 year old roses (on the other side of the garden) grown from cuttings.

    Photos sideways again I'm afraid!
     
  • Lyn Plant-WellsLyn Plant-Wells Posts: 338
    Sorry - wrong photo of my roses grown from cuttings. Here  they are.


  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    That doesn’t look very like laxa with those thorns, although the matte foliage looks similar - I’ve only ever see it as the odd rootstock sucker on a grafted rose though. Possibly something self-seeded or miraculously raised from the dead of it’s concrete boots! Native wild roses do flower in many a hedgerow. You could wait and see or just dig it up and get rid if it’s in the wrong place.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I have plenty of Dog Roses flowering in one of my hedges. I love them mixed with the Hawthorn at this time of year.
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    When you don't even know who's in the team

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..a seeded Canina from the hedgerows I presume... it uses those massive downward facing thorns to hoist itself through trees..
    .. not exactly a desirable garden plant..  it was used as understock before Laxa became dominant and can sometimes still be seen suckering from an old rose that's been in the ground a very long time..
    Horrible for Standard roses..

    Laxa is a Central Asian, low thorn variant.. 
    East Anglia, England
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