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What's wrong with this rose?

Hi all,

This rose in the photo has not been doing well in the last couple of weeks, it was ok about a month ago but now it seems to be life in it. Does anyone know what wrong with it ? 

I had to move it in doormot season as it was getting over grown with the long grass meadow. Maybe I should move it back with the grass cut out ? 

I have given it a good water ever since it's been moved.

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    The soil still looks very dry
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • It looks dry on top but start digging a little, still mosture. Could it mean moving back into a shadey part of the garden?
  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    In its stressed state, I don't think moving your plant back to its previous position is going to help it much.
    When you moved the rose, did the root ball come out of the ground easily or did you lose some of the roots when moving it?
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I think that’s well on it’s way to being dead, unfortunately, moving it won’t help.

    Looks like the canes aren’t delivering water to the new shoots from the roots, you can see characteristic ridging on the canes where the canes have lost turgidity. The one on the left being the worst. There will have been sufficient water and nutrients stored in the canes to start new growth but nothing to further sustain it.

    It’s possible the roots or graft were damaged when moving and they haven’t recovered, that the same have drowned because they’ve had too much water. Usually a really good watering in is all that’s required when moved in a dormant state in winter, maybe the occasional water if very dry. Then only resume watering in earnest when you see signs of new growth.

    It’s also possible it will put out new roots and shoots recover from near death..

    I moved a healthy, well-branched rose in Spring, rather late admittedly as it was well into new growth. 7 out of 8 formerly green and healthy canes died. The last, half-blackened one is hanging on and managed to put out new foliage. TBH I’m not inclined to baby along a sickly rose and will start afresh with a new bare root replacement in Autumn.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Ceres said:
    In its stressed state, I don't think moving your plant back to its previous position is going to help it much.
    When you moved the rose, did the root ball come out of the ground easily or did you lose some of the roots when moving it?
    Unfortunately it didn't come out that easily, so maybe that's what caused the issue here. It seemed stressed in the over growth down the bottom of the garden that's why I moved it. 
  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    Ceres said:
    In its stressed state, I don't think moving your plant back to its previous position is going to help it much.
    When you moved the rose, did the root ball come out of the ground easily or did you lose some of the roots when moving it?
    Unfortunately it didn't come out that easily, so maybe that's what caused the issue here. It seemed stressed in the over growth down the bottom of the garden that's why I moved it. 
    With the weird weather we have been having this past summer and winter, the lack of a decent root sytem can't have been a help when a plant had to face up to a move to a new site. All you can do is keep an eye on it and hope for the best though I think @Nollie's advice, "TBH I’m not inclined to baby along a sickly rose and will start afresh with a new bare root replacement in Autumn" is spot on. There is no point in wasting time and energy on a plant that has to be looked after like an invalid.
    In the meantime, trim off the dead bits and keep your fingers crossed.
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