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Mosquitoes in water butts - olive oil?

I have discovered several mosquitoes in my water butts, after a search online even with a tight fitting lid they still find a way in. So the alternative is a tablespoon of olive oil to create a barrier so that the larvae can't breathe when in the water. The advice is to 'skim' the oil every few weeks, but I haven't found anywhere how you're meant to skim the oil off. Can anyone advise please?
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  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited April 2023
    Is there an overflow?  Make it overflow?

    I use the smallest amout of soap &/or washing up liquid.  The larvae use the surface tension to cling on.  So little that I just  leave it.  It's biodegradable.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    The olive oil works, I tried it, but it clung to the sides of the buttand created a black oily sludgy mess in the bottom dregs when the water in the butt was used up. I had to crawl in on my knees to scrub it out. I think @bédé’s tip of washing up liquid is worth a try, sounds far less messy!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • JLodgeJLodge Posts: 26
    Thank you both, yes the washing up liquid sounds like the way forward!

    As an aside, I have 2 x 200L butts and a 600L IBC daisy chained in that order, the overflow for the IBC goes into a 100L butt which acts as a buffer tank for the dripper hose that waters all of my hedging. I initially just had the IBC overflow going straight to the dripper hose but found out pretty quickly that a buffer tank was needed. 
  • JLodgeJLodge Posts: 26
     @bédé How often do you top up the washing up liquid?
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    I have a repurposed  45 gallon chemicals drum (tasteful light grey) with a sawn-off top as a loose-fiiting lid.  I do the washing up liquid when I see the b****rs, but usually once, perhaps twice a year.  No need yet this year. 

    Just a drop on the finger is enough.  You can see it spead out, and the larvae sink and drown.  Very satisfying.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • JLodgeJLodge Posts: 26
    Thank you, that made me chuckle, so no need to agitate the washing up liquid?
  • JLodgeJLodge Posts: 26
    Another thought is dishwasher rinse aid, I've used it for water droplet photography to reduce surface tension in the base water that the drop is going into. The warnings on the back are similar to washing up liquid.
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited April 2023
    I'm a chemist.  I know a bit about surface active agents (aka surfactants).  

    They are all basically the same type of chemical.  They all reduce the surface tension of water.  A dish washing up liquid would emphasise detergency, that is the emulsification of fats.  A foaming agent would create foam that in machine dish washer would be unnecessary, but in hand dish washing would show when its action is becoming exhausted.  A rinse aid would emphasise the reduction of dish-to-water tension which is related to viscosity, so that the water drains quickly.

    In something as crude as mosquito larvae-killing whatever you have to hand is good enough.  I use liquid soap in my bug spray, just because I had bought that for some other horticultural reason.  Normal household soap or detergent is OK.

    Coincidentally surfactants also can act to prevent insects breathing.   A bit like olive oil, but a different mechanism. 

    I hope that this is understandable.  Please ask if I can expand on any aspect.

    BTW.  What can you tell me about water drop photography?  In a current TV commercial, a coin is thrown into the Trevi Fountain.  The upward bounce of the water (there must be a technical  term) does seem to be particularly high.


     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • you learn something new every day 👍great information thank you for sharing 
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