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Rural England Rose

MeomyeMeomye Posts: 949
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I have been given a Rural England potted rose. I believe it was put in its current pot last year and was starting to be trained up a trellis. The person who gave it to me can no longer keep it as they are moving to a smaller property. Could someone advise how to best take care of it? which aspect is best? can it stay in a pot? I have no experience of ramblers. :/ tia
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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited April 2023
    It seems to be a Peter Beales rose
    Some info here-
    https://www.classicroses.co.uk/roses/rural-england-rambling-rose.html

    I have several ramblers - most quite vigorous.
    They're easy to look after, just follow the pruning for ramblers.
    I don't really and just leave mine to it and cut off bits as and when.

    Billericay - Essex

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  • MeomyeMeomye Posts: 949
    @Pete.8 thank you for the link, however it was mainly explaining what to do with a newly purchased rose and this one has already been in a pot for a while. I am wondering are they suitable for pots? if not, what aspect/conditions do they need? what sort of support structure if any is needed? Can ramblers be kept shorter?  :/ sorry I have no idea what to do with it.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    It can live in a pot if the pot is big enough, 60cms high and wide. The compost should have some soil in it or John Innes No 3 mixed in. It will need regular watering and feeding, more than for a rose in the ground.

    It is a rambling rose which means it will grow quite tall, taller than you! That means it will need some support. Could you place it against a wall? You would have to put some vine eyes in the wall with wires to tie it to or a trellis. If you don't have a wall or a fence you could try an obelisk but the rose would have to be kept trimmed once it starts getting big.

    This rose prefers a sunny spot.

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    There was a rose lady featured on GW last year that had a fabulous Rural England grown up and along a fence. I recall it looked pretty vigorous and took up a fair amount of space, maybe a couple of fence panels. Of course you can grow it in a large pot as @Busy-Lizzie describes but if you had a space in the ground against a fence with support wires it would be happier that way long-term. Or maybe growing over a rose arch? Sometimes gifts can be a double-edged sword!
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  • MeomyeMeomye Posts: 949
    Thanks @Busy-Lizzie and @Nollie although I have space to plant it in ground in the garden I do not have anywhere to 'grow it up' (no fences or trees) so I am trying to figure out a way of supporting it. Is there anyway of keeping this more manageable or will it become huge? thanks.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    Have you read the link that @Pete.8 sent? It says it will grow 2.4 metres tall and 1.8m wide and is ideal for an arch or pergola. It will have to be grown up something. Don't you have a bit of wall of your house that you could attach it to?
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • MeomyeMeomye Posts: 949
    Hi, thanks @Busy-Lizzie, yes I have read what P.Beales say but thought that some people on here had managed to keep their roses a bit more manageable as sadly, no, I do not have a wall to attach it to. :/
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    You can buy fence like structures in metal or wood on line You just shove ‘ em in a piece of ground ,plant the rose ,potted or grounded in front ,tie the rose to it and off you go . Same with a rose wigwam structure. Plant rose however Place wigwam around ,attach rose , bingo . Just remember to keep it watered and abit of rose feed every few weeks and when it’s big enough ,give it a haircut . You’ll be grand with it .
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Hi, trouble is, I don’t know how vigorous it will be and don’t think anyone I know on the rose thread grows it either. You could phone PB and ask.

    You can keep cutting it back but it may eventually swamp a standard obelisk hence suggesting a rose arch. If you do use an obelisk, go for an 8ft one (1ft is pushed in the ground) plant the rose on the outside and wind the canes around it. If you haven’t the space for an arch why not give an obelisk a go?  If, after a few years it gets too unwieldy, just cut it down and start again. Or regift it 😉 
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  • MeomyeMeomye Posts: 949
    Thank you @bcpathome and @Nollie for your suggestions, I have been looking at various things to grow it up including the taller obelisks. I am sure I will work something out. 
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