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Plant for shady corner

I'm planting up this north-facing area and struggling to know what to put in the back corner. When we moved in the garden was just grass so everything in there is new. We're in Manchester. 

The corner is sheltered from the wind (about the only place in our garden that is!) but doesn't get much direct sun, apart from maybe a small amount in the morning. 

Ideally want something about a 1m-1.5m tall, evergreen and structural. Something that will make an impact. Any ideas, GW Hive Mind? 

The only permanent thing in that border currently is the fatsia. The rest I'm still deciding on. I have a white camellia elsewhere in the garden which isn't doing too well where it is, so was considering moving it to the corner, but not sure if that's the best idea.


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  • Perhaps it would be worth waiting for your Fatsia to grow up…? it’ll easily fill that entire space and then some.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I don't think you have room for a Camellia when you already have the Fatsia. You'd be constantly cutting the Fatsia back to keep it smaller. I'd put the Fatsia at the back and have other shade loving perennials in front, or -relocate the fatsia and have the Camellia. There are loads of perennials to choose from   :)
    The biggest problem with Camellias is that the flowering interest is short, so you may want to have some tall perennials, and winter interest to take over,  or even a clematis to grow through it. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    edited April 2023
    Camellias thrive best in acid soil away from morning sun so it may not be best placed in that position.  Also, I've found that Fatsias can take a long time to establish and then take off.  I had one sulking for about 3 years, I moved it away from my neighbour's laurel hedge, it responded well but quickly succumbed to this winter's erratic weather.  I now have a new one, but in a container.  If you want something 1 - 1.5m tall, I'd consider a variegated Phormium for that space.  I've got one growing in a similar shady position.  I'd move the Fatsia elsewhere and put the perennials at the front.  (I'm interested that you're not looking for something taller to hide your neighbour's trampoline!)
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • You could put an acer in a container in that corner. One which has orange new growth or one of the red stemmed varieties. The Fatsia will definitely fill that corner quite quickly in height and width. 
    If the acer is in a sunken pot you could then move it when the Fatsia takes over or you could move the Fatsia and plant the acer.
    I have recently planted a red stemmed, orange leaved acer in a North facing corner, under planted with snowdrops, two dwarf azalea to one side and a white flowered tree heather on the other. That corner is a blaze of colour at the moment and will remain so until autumn, with new leaves of the acer. It is not evergreen so the azaleas and heather give some green colour during the winter.
    I dug in a full bag of ericaceous compost prior to planting the acer.
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    edited April 2023
    I'm interested to know which variety of Acer you've planted please @Joyce Goldenlily, it sounds like what I've been looking for!
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • Steph111Steph111 Posts: 22
    Camellias thrive best in acid soil away from morning sun so it may not be best placed in that position.  Also, I've found that Fatsias can take a long time to establish and then take off.  I had one sulking for about 3 years, I moved it away from my neighbour's laurel hedge, it responded well but quickly succumbed to this winter's erratic weather.  I now have a new one, but in a container.  If you want something 1 - 1.5m tall, I'd consider a variegated Phormium for that space.  I've got one growing in a similar shady position.  I'd move the Fatsia elsewhere and put the perennials at the front.  (I'm interested that you're not looking for something taller to hide your neighbour's trampoline!)
    It's hard to see from the photo but we're on a hill so that is our next door-but-one neighbour. If we wanted to shield ourselves from neighbours on the sides we'd have no light in the garden! 
  • Steph111Steph111 Posts: 22
    Thanks for all your suggestions! I've moved the fatsia to the corner today and will plant perennials in the front of the border.   

    I do have an Acer needing a spot but its leaves are light green /almost yellow (Acer Shirasawanum Jordan). The Acer you've described sounds lovely @Joyce Goldenlily
  • Steph111 said:
    Thanks for all your suggestions! I've moved the fatsia to the corner today and will plant perennials in the front of the border.   

    I do have an Acer needing a spot but its leaves are light green /almost yellow (Acer Shirasawanum Jordan). The Acer you've described sounds lovely @Joyce Goldenlily

    The acer I have is Orange Dream.
     
    The label says; It grows to 125 cm in height and 100cm in width. It can be grown in a container or open soil. It has branching upright growth with fresh yellow/green lobed leaves. The young growing tips have orange leaves. The autumn colour is a breath taking yellow. The long growth can be cut back in March to encourage compact growth. It likes morning sun, shade or dappled shade. Fully hardy but if grown in a container needs some protection during cold weather. Likes sandy, humus-rich soil. If that is not available add some garden peat to the planting hole.

    I have never protected mine when it was in a pot but I am in Cornwall where we do not have such cold spells as other places. Just lots of rain.
    My tree is planted in a North facing corner made up of two  Cornish banks with a large ash tree growing on top of the junction of the walls. It is in a small quarter circle raised bed. Since planting out it has made a lot of new growth from near the base and also some long whippy tall stems. I am cogitating at the moment about whether to do some judicious pruning, if yes, how much and where? Or allow it to do its own thing for another season or two.
    Good luck when you have yours. I love mine.
  • borgadrborgadr Posts: 718
    I agree with the earlier posters, that fatsia is a perfect choice for that corner. I have one thriving in a dry shady corner under some trees, it's more than 2m tall.  And with quite a small footprint at ground level you'll have plenty of space to plant under it.
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