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Helenium Ruby Tuesday from seed?

LeadFarmerLeadFarmer Posts: 1,500
edited March 2023 in Plants
Anyone know if you can buy Helenium Ruby Tuesday seeds anywhere online please?

I grew some heleniums from seed last year and would like to grow Ruby Tuesday this year but can't find anywhere selling seeds. Is it a sterile plant that needs to be grown from cuttings?

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  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    It's probably a sterile clone.
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I have searched the more unusual seed companies with no luck, so I expect @Loxley is right.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Alan Clark2 in LiverpoolAlan Clark2 in Liverpool Posts: 2,190
    A named form of anything cannot usually be expected to come true from seed, because the resulting plants get their genes from two parents, and they are mixed up at random to give unpredictable results. You have to resort to vegetative reproduction. 
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Except you can buy the seeds of many named varieties of plants, so it can be achieved by the seed companies.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Alan Clark2 in LiverpoolAlan Clark2 in Liverpool Posts: 2,190
    If you only want a particular flower colour then you can do it by selective breeding, and you can also produce named F1 hybrids, but the next generation does not breed true. But when there are many variables it becomes impossible - eg named roses, which can only be produced from cuttings, and heleniums are probably the same.
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    There are seed-true cultivars, but I am sure Alan is correct that the plethora of new and improved (and highly bred) Heleniums are not among them. 
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • PerkiPerki Posts: 2,527
    I don't believe any named Helenium can be grown by seed, seedling don't come true . I come across that info years ago so it may of change now but I doubt it. Seed variety's are usual seed as Autumnale mix etc 
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    Don't know if these are of any interest as no luck with the Ruby Tuesday seeds,

    https://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/Helenium-Helena-Red-Shades
  • LeadFarmerLeadFarmer Posts: 1,500
    Thanks everyone, looks like I'll have to buy them in plant form. I've found a few online nurseries selling small 9cm potted plants.
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