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Scilla id

PalustrisPalustris Posts: 4,307
Bit of a long shot as I think these are less common Scilla. The dread plant label remover has been at work.
The flowers are a bit more blue than this shows. they are about 5mm across.

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Small flowers too!
TIA.

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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @Palustris This is all so confusing. Chionodoxa is classified as a scilla now. I assume you think it is some kind of Chionodoxa? It would seem that the stamens have flattened stalks.

    So if that is correct with yours, and it is early flowering could be Chionodoxa forbesii Blue Giant with flowers bigger than most?
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • PalustrisPalustris Posts: 4,307
    Definitely not Chionodoxa. I have lots of all the named species and forms of those in the garden and these are definitely different.
    The nearest label to the top one is S. ingridae which again is not correct, neither is it S. litardierei which we also should have (if my records are correct.)
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    edited March 2023
    Palustris said:
    Definitely not Chionodoxa.

    It used to be so easy, but botanists been changing things again.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scilla_sect._Chionodoxa
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    Sorry, I read "id" as the varietal name.  Now I know you meant: can you identify these please."  Answer, no.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    Might be worth a  call out to @nutcutlet

    I can recall being given a plant once by someone who didn't have a clue what it was, five years later I found out. It is strange but when you least expect it you come across it.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    If you like it does it matter what it is called.  I have everal plants where the label has been lost, or my memory faded.

    If you want to buy more, that is different.

    I first came across Pieris at Charwell.  I didn't carry notebook-and-pencil then; a must since.  It took me many years to come across it again and remember.  By then the varieties had become quite commonplace.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    Might be worth a  call out to @nutcutlet


    I'm not very good with little spring bulbs


    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @nutcutlet and @ Palustris maybe it will have to be enjoyed for what it is a lovely colour in early spring. You never when you are least expecting it the answer will be there...
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    edited March 2023
    Been thinking....
    I thought I knew the difference.
    Chionodoxa on top with stamens like a crown in the middle.
    Scilla below with stamen spread out.
    Think I need to go back to the beginning again and investigate.
    More below.


    iand I think I have one like yours in blue (and in pink)
    Pink one was bought as Chionodoxa pink giant.
    Clearly it is not.
    Flowers are tiny very dainty.
    I think mine may be Scilla bifolia/Scilla bifolia rosea.


    This is my Chionodoxa Pink Giant.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • PalustrisPalustris Posts: 4,307
    edited March 2023
    The two central images do look very much like Scilla bifolia, or at least the ones I have labelled as such.
    One of mine has a label nearby which says Hyacinthoides( or ella, end is missing) ciliata which again it ain't.
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