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Fireblight - is it inevitable?

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  • clematisdorsetclematisdorset Posts: 1,348
    Thank you @Perki, I get a fair bit of rain and wind and that was why I was concerned. However, going by replies here, fireblight does not seem to be a major worry and I would like a pyracantha or cotoneaster for bees/pollinators and then the birds. I think I will just need to choose my planting site carefully and prepare the ground well.

    Thanks for the info on photinias. I think it was black-spot on my photinia, which is situated next to quite a few rose bushes unfortunately. It never really got going, I will probably remove it.

    I hope your cotoneaster will be alright, @bcpathome, especially after all that time. What kind is it, may I ask? This stop-start/wet and cold weather really hasn't helped, I do agree. I hope we are not heading for widespread droughts this summer too - so many unknowns with the weather/climate when trying to look after a garden these days!


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  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    I have no idea what the type of cotoneaster I have as it came with the house .I imagine ,as it’s over35 years old that it’s one of the old varieties ,don’t know if it would even still be available to buy .
  • clematisdorsetclematisdorset Posts: 1,348
    Well I am glad it has grown so well and I hope you have blossom soon. I adore the tree-like cotoneasters but I probably only have space for the form that can be trained on trellis, though I may need to do more research first.
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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I've had pyracantha and various cotoneasters in every garden I've had, and I've never seen fireblight. Both are very common in gardens round here.   :)
    I did have a problem with one pyracantha a couple of years ago, but that seemed to be scab rather than fireblight. It's recovered well enough after I cut back all the affected growth. 

    Photinias always look terrible here. They're very heavily promoted as hedging, and the 'great red colour'  etc,  but they need the right conditions to look decent - warmth and well drained soil, and not too exposed. The standard ones, in particular, never look good. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • clematisdorsetclematisdorset Posts: 1,348
    Fairygirl said:
    I've had pyracantha and various cotoneasters in every garden I've had, and I've never seen fireblight. Both are very common in gardens round here.   :)
    I did have a problem with one pyracantha a couple of years ago, but that seemed to be scab rather than fireblight. It's recovered well enough after I cut back all the affected growth. 

    Photinias always look terrible here. They're very heavily promoted as hedging, and the 'great red colour'  etc,  but they need the right conditions to look decent - warmth and well drained soil, and not too exposed. The standard ones, in particular, never look good. 
    Thank you @Fairygirl, and for the photinia info. Yes, the 'red' colour  :) like mine I suppose they mean: more like lime green these days!  :)  
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  • SkandiSkandi Posts: 1,723
    ¨We have lots of fireblight here, I had to take one pear tree down because it totally succumbed, that was 5 years ago, it's neighbour (also a pear) gets some every year but it doesn't really seem to bother it, it crops well and the rest of the tree is healthy.
    I just chop off all the bits I can reach and leave the ones that are to high.
  • clematisdorsetclematisdorset Posts: 1,348
    Thank you @Skandi, and am I correct in thinking you garden in Scandinavia? It sounds as though in a way, fireblight may not be too serious and that the benefits of having the plant life for pollinators and birds etc outweighs the negatives. Life is a bit of a gamble, I would like to attract more wildlife, so I will go for it, and try to be vigilant for the signs!  :)
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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Do you grow everything in those pots @clematisdorset
    Many things aren't suited to that type of culture. It can stress shrubs/trees in particular. They need a lot of attention compared to having them in the ground. 
    Photinias will also need a fair bit of sun to get the red colour. I don't think they colour up well in shade.  
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • clematisdorsetclematisdorset Posts: 1,348
    Luckily not everything is in pots @Fairygirl but quite a few things are.   The photo makes it look like the photinia is in one but it is in the ground in part of the area where I removed the hideous landscaping fabric in order to first plant various shrubs. Since that time, I am slowly trying to remove all the landscaping fabric, but over time it has got more difficult because roots start to grow and my own potted plants are sitting on slate over the remaining landscaping fabric. Consequently, I cannot 'get' to the soil in my own garden and it is sooooo frustrating! Periods of ill health has meant it is very much a stop-start project. When I cut out fabric, I move pots about and put long manure and home made compost on the bare soil which is quite compacted. When that part is ready, I plant out. I just could not bear to live without plants and oxygen and wildlife, especially as all around me, things are getting chopped down and replaced with plastic lawn and the like  :'( 


    The camellias next to the photinia have to be in a pot and my other photinia is in more sun by the roses  but I cut that right back and I could not get a photo of that one (sorry I made it a bit confusing). When I have removed all the landscaping fabric, my plants should have more space between them and I will probably move that lime green photinia.  Luckily the area where I want to plant a pyracanthas or cotoneaster does not have landscaping fabric and would be on a north-facing wall. I wish I did not have the plants in pots - I hope I can crack on this year, but is quite exhausting!  :)
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