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Grass killer

Is there a product I can use to kill large areas of grass prior to planting up rose beds?  Got a bit too much to clear by hand.  Thanks in advance.  :)

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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    If the only option is to use chemicals, then any glyphosate-based weedkiller will kill the grass. 
    It will only work when the grass is growing - so usually between March and September. It will have no effect if the grass isn't actively growing.
    It is absorbed only by the leaves/blades and does not harm the soil.
    But it will kill any plant if it gets on the leaves, so use with care on a calm cloudy day.
    I use a pump sprayer with the nozzle set to droplets not a fine mist that may blow around.

    Here are some examples of glyphosate weedkillers
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=glyphosate+weedkiller&sprefix=glyphos%2Caps%2C126&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_7

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Don't particularly want to use chemicals to be fair - other options?
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Yes - dig the grass up in turves and stack it in a heap with the grass on one turf facing the grass on the turf above.
    A year later you will have loam.

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    cover with cardboard and leave til next year?
    People use all sorts of weird kitchen chemicals like salt and vinegar and pretend they're not using chemicals but the effect of those on soil life is probably worse than glyphosate. (and they won't do the job)



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited February 2023
    nut... said:  "... probably worse than ..."      I will accept "possibly", but possibly not.

    Everything material is chemicals.

    Your only solution is to exclude light.  Cardboard is one.  Black plastic is another.  Geotextile another.

    Why not cover the area with a geotextile and cut holes, or jus a X shape through which you plant.  No need to waste a year; life is short.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • Thanks everyone. I must admit I like the geotextile idea as it means we can crack on straight away 😁. Any specific brand or is good old Amazon our best bet?
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    Think about how you're going to disguise the membrane too, it's not a good look!  Also, I'd recommend digging the planting holes first, remove the grass around the holes by a good margin and enrich the planting soil with organic matter - it's less messy!  Personally I don't like using membrane as it can affect the soil biology and become visible if not properly covered.
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • We are intending to cover with bark and yes will prepare planting ground beforehand.  Thanks for the advice much appreciated. ☺️
  • PalustrisPalustris Posts: 4,307
    Much as I hate to disagree, but I would not go down the geotex route. We did and no matter how we tried the weed grass grew up through it and was even harder to remove. It was also very difficult to feed the plants which grew in it and since roses do need massive amounts of fertiliser, organic or not, just putting it on top of the membrane does not really help them.
    Sorry, but in the end we dug up the area, removed the membrane, used Roundup to kill off the weeds and replanted once the area was actually clean. Twice as much work in the long run.
  • M33R4M33R4 Posts: 291
    My father used to pick old carpets from skips and cover areas of his garden for at least a year to kill off anything underneath. 
    I wish I could garden all year round!
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