Pandorea Jasminoides

BOTB · February 2023

So the winter was too cold for my fleece cover climber.

It’s brown and dry.

Is it beyond help?

BOTB · February 2023

Sorry they are all sideways.

punkdoc · February 2023

They are tender, unlikely to survive the winter outdoors, even if fleeced, sorry.

BOTB · February 2023

punkdoc said:

They are tender, unlikely to survive the winter outdoors, even if fleeced, sorry.

This is what I was afraid of 😔 ok thank you I appreciate your reply

bédé · February 2023

We went well below 0ºC in Surrey this winter. And for long spells. Insulation only slows down temperature loss, it doesn't stop it completely.

BOTB · February 2023

bédé said:

We went well below 0ºC in Surrey this winter. And for long spells. Insulation only slows down temperature loss, it doesn't stop it completely.

Yes we had -10 for almost a week in a row so no wonder it didn’t survive. I’m still new to gardening so I don’t really pay attention to things like this. I’m learning (at a cost 😬) lost £25 on that climber. Will read the labels far more carefully from now on.

Fairygirl · February 2023

They won't survive even a few degrees below zero, which isn't even cold.

They're regarded as conservatory, or indoor plants, although they might be ok in some of the very sheltered areas in the south - especially in a town garden.
If you want reliable outdoor climbers, there are plenty, so don't be afraid of asking for advice. You also don't have to rely on GCs etc, as there are loads of excellent online suppliers. We've just been advising another poster re clematis on another thread, and if you like roses, there are various threads just now, with many very knowledgeable people there to help.
Honeysuckles [Lonicera] are very hardy everywhere, so that might be a possibility for you too

BOTB · February 2023

Fairygirl said:

They won't survive even a few degrees below zero, which isn't even cold.
They're regarded as conservatory, or indoor plants, although they might be ok in some of the very sheltered areas in the south - especially in a town garden.
If you want reliable outdoor climbers, there are plenty, so don't be afraid of asking for advice. You also don't have to rely on GCs etc, as there are loads of excellent online suppliers. We've just been advising another poster re clematis on another thread, and if you like roses, there are various threads just now, with many very knowledgeable people there to help.
Honeysuckles [Lonicera] are very hardy everywhere, so that might be a possibility for you too

I’m in the south and it was sort of in a corner sheltered by my summerhouse but gets good sun until 4pm in the summer. But my knowledge on any plant currently is limited 😂
ok great I will take a look at other posts. Thank you. I want to steer clear of roses due to my children. Unless there are thornless ones?

Fairygirl · February 2023

No idea - I don't like roses so I don't grow them

@Marlorena and @Nollie are very experienced rose growers, so they might be able to help if they see my tags on their names

If you aren't experienced re any plants, it's better to stick with reliably hardy ones, and then you can experiment a bit as you get used to your conditions, and what will suit. Saves your bank balance too

When you look online for example, you should see a hardiness number listed for plants - H4, H5 etc. That gives you a rough idea of frost tolerance. If you see something you like, and it doesn't give that info, you can always check on the RHS site, or on other suppliers' sites, and that will give you an idea of hardiness. However, it doesn't take into consideration any other factors, so your soil, your general climate, other planting, and location all have a bearing on the success of the plants

BOTB · February 2023

Fairygirl said:

No idea - I don't like roses so I don't grow them
@Marlorena and @Nollie are very experienced rose growers, so they might be able to help if they see my tags on their names

If you aren't experienced re any plants, it's better to stick with reliably hardy ones, and then you can experiment a bit as you get used to your conditions, and what will suit. Saves your bank balance too

When you look online for example, you should see a hardiness number listed for plants - H4, H5 etc. That gives you a rough idea of frost tolerance. If you see something you like, and it doesn't give that info, you can always check on the RHS site, or on other suppliers' sites, and that will give you an idea of hardiness. However, it doesn't take into consideration any other factors, so your soil, your general climate, other planting, and location all have a bearing on the success of the plants

This is great information so thank you ☺️ I’ve just lost cordyline too but have been reassured to see I’m not alone with these dying this winter. I had amazing purple red ones which had grown huge 😞 I’m not deterred though as this winter has been a yo-yo in weather. The only thing that are thriving are 40 winter violas that cost me 20p!!

Fairygirl · February 2023

"The only thing that are thriving are 40 winter violas that cost me 20p!! "

Every cloud @BOTB eh?

It's the swing in weather conditions that's been the main problem. I've been growing Phormiums for 30 or 40 years, and we regularly have temps into the minus 8, 9, 10s and beyond. They've always survived as long as they're in well drained sites or pots. I've lost all of mine this year, because it's been too warm, then wetter, then a swing into freezing conditions, so they've had regular spells of ice rather than just some frost and snow. The mild conditions through October and November also caused the problem, as we didn't have the normal, gradual, lowering of temps from September onwards, which allows plants to adjust more easily. December was our wettest December on record, which is saying something, as it's always wet, or sleety that month.
That's just how it is with gardens though, and you can't really plan for that sort of event

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