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owd potterowd potter Posts: 979
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Anyone have an idea what this might be?
TIA

 
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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @owd potter I think it could be Leycesteria formosa. The birds seed them around.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I agree 👍 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited February 2023
    Definitely😊
    One of my favourite plants
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    edited February 2023
    @owd potter I think I would look at pruning it in the spring to encourage new growth and a better shape. Large stems can die back after the winter months especially in more mature plants. Look around you may see more seedlings over time as back up plants. I also love it not like anything else common name Pheasant Berry.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • owd potterowd potter Posts: 979
    Thanks guys, your comments are much appreciated.
    I was hopeful that the Jade green stems, from which it look like a plastic plant to me,  might prove ID decisive, and we have a consensus it seems.
    I have to say tho', not what I was expecting.
    A little background, 3 years ago I planted a clem 'The president' here. It disappeared, and a year later I planted another clem 'Etoile Violette' in it's place, on pic 3 you can see the copper coloured stem of EV.
    I had anticipated that this unknown might be a re-emergence of the original clem that I planted. Is there no chance that it might be?, although it's growth is very un clem like.
    Either way, unfortunately, it is going to have to be removed, so no promotional pruning @Suze i'm afraid. It's in the shadow of a mature hardy fuchsia and a climbing rose, which the clematis is intended to companion, so no room for another 2m shrub..  

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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Definitely not a Clematis. 

    Definitely is a Leycesteria formosa. I’d put money on it 😉 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Not clematis.
    Having a  Leycesteria there [ seeded in, as the others have said ] it'll have out competed the clematis. The early shoots are often described as being bamboo like.

    It takes some doing to obliterate either of those clematis though, so the conditions can't be suitable for them. Or, they were put in as very small plants which won't have helped them thrive.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    If you can take out the Leycesteria pot it up and grow it on you will have something well worth growing for free.

    The 'mini' clematis often found at supermarkets can be good investments if you are prepared to grow them on, not sure if this was the case .Even a mature clematis would struggle at first with the competition from the established plants you mention.
     
    It may be alive under there, a tiny shoot is all you might find. No clematis expert but you could dig it up early spring and if there is life, pot it up and give it some tlc.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Yes - small ones [clematis] found in 'non gardening' outlets are just the previous year's cuttings [slips] and need growing on for at least a year before planting out. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • owd potterowd potter Posts: 979
    Thanks Dove, I'm convinced.
    FG, the original President clematis was 1 of 2 small Wilco clems that I planted in Spring 20. I didn't grow them on, I'm more of a stick 'em in and let 'em tough it out type gardener. The other, a montana, is romping away up a tree on the other side of the garden. 
    Anyway, it failed and was replaced by EV, a GC plant, in the same spot in 2021.
    Only the mature fuchsia remains as established planting following my pergola redevelopment in 2020. The ground was well prepared and improved with organics before being replanted with a climbing rose 1.0m away. EV became lunch for molluscs when first planted but recovered and flowered last year and has a couple of new shoots already this year so maybe ok. 
    Thanks Suze, I may try to pot up this Leycesteria then when I remove it, although I'm primarily concerned not to damage the Clematis during the extraction and I have no idea where I might eventually relocate it to, I'm pretty much full.  
    Thanks again all.
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