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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Whatever you use, don't use vinegar.
    Just pull the weeds, foxgloves etc out - there's only a few

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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    bede's comments are apparently 'tongue in cheek' a lot of the time. That was his claim  to me on a thread yesterday about sheep proof container plants.
    Make of that what you will... 

    I'd do as @Pete.8 suggests @Slow-worm and just pull out the foxgloves if they're getting a bit invasive - they're usually quite easy. 
    It also might be worth taking a look at your supports for your clems. If you can add some more horizontal wires lower down, you can then tie stems in and get them across, rather than up, the wall. Don't be frightened to prune some stems either, so that you can get that new growth early on when it's nice and pliable. You can do that later in the year, and you can then get an idea of where you want the growth   :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Slow-wormSlow-worm Posts: 1,630
    bédé said:
    If you just removed the dead stems it would make a big difference.

    As for the weed competition, something gentle like Malt Vinegar sprayed just on the weeds whist shielding the clematis.
    If I remove the 'dead' stems I take the entire plant out. 😆 

    They're not weeds, they're foxgloves! 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    You can transplant the foxgloves as they are useful plants to have and great for polinators.   

    Walls suck up huge amounts of moisture and you clem is right up against that one so I still advise watering in dry spells.  Just cos the top survives doesn't mean it's thriving as it should!
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • thevictorianthevictorian Posts: 1,279
    Is the top growth coming from those "dead stems"? We have the same variety and it really suffered from this year's heat and looks very similar to yours. Ours has lost foliage lower down but is still flowering on those stems now.
    Or is it simply that the lower half is devoid of foliage and you'd like it flowering the whole way up? If it is then prunning is definitely the way and it's it's worth repeating every few years to keep them fresh.
  • Slow-wormSlow-worm Posts: 1,630
    edited January 2023
    Obelixx Yes I'll probably transplant the foxgloves as I've got plenty, and a new shady border planned, and I'll keep watering JBs which are definitely not thriving as they should, could I move them further out after flowering and cutting back?
    The one on the fence does exactly the same too, no wall there.. at least my neighbours get to see just the pretty bits. 😕😄

    Victorian yes, the stems look dead but the green is growing off them - that's what I don't understand, why it's green so high up despite the state of the main stems, and the brown gets incrimementally higher as it grows.
    I thought it had wilt the first year, so I cut it right down, and the year after too - it grows beautifully until about July, so it must be a hydration issue.
    I just wanted some winter flowers but the focus is all on crispy brown stems - I probably should have just got a honeysuckle, lol! 

  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    That's how clematis grow - woody stems with buds coming off them  :)
    The foliage often comes a bit later than the flowers,  depending on the type of clem, but foliage low down will also die off. All quite normal.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Slow-wormSlow-worm Posts: 1,630
    Thanks Fairygirl! 👍
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited January 2023
    Slow-worm said:  

    1. If I remove the 'dead' stems I take the entire plant out.

    2.  They're not weeds, they're foxgloves! 

    1.  Does that means that the whole plant is dead?

    2.  Point taken.  Large foxgloves have big roots.  If you pull those up a lot will come up with them.

    Does anyone have any suggestion as as how to remove them gently?
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    @Slow-worm As with roses and other bare legged plants, you need to grow something in front to hide the bare stems.   Many people grow climbing roses and clematis together and then taller annuals and/or perennials in front.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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