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What weed with a rhizome type root

FledglingCottageGardenerFledglingCottageGardener Posts: 26
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I have a new to me garden and have a lot of plants or (I think probably) weeds coming up that I hope someone might be able to identify. The leaves are coming up curled up, similar to the way that new hosta shoots emerge from under the soil. If I dig them up they are attached to what I think are rhizomes or pieces of root. I have a feeling that they are weeds but I would like to know for sure. I feel stupid as I spent ages in the summer digging out hoards of green alkanet and I dug up lots of these rhizomes but put them back in the soil thinking that they were something desirable!
I apologise for no photo but I had intended to do some research myself to try to identify this. Unfortunately if I search for 'weed curled leaves' I just get a lot of links about growing cannabis :o  and it's too dark to take a photo outside now! 
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  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    Try Arum maculatum or Arum italicum


    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • MikeOxgreenMikeOxgreen Posts: 812
    Pot some up in the house where it's warm and bright, you'll soon find out.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Another possibility is celandine-


    Billericay - Essex

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    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    The first thing that came to my mind was Docks 


     :/ 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • SkandiSkandi Posts: 1,723
    If it's a really thick root and you are somewhere southern it could be solomons seal.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    edited January 2023
    I wondered if they are celandines, just starting to appear in my garden. The root in your photo would be small if it is a lesser celandine? If so they like a retentive soil and are really difficult to get rid of. There are also some choice double forms that some gardeners collect and do not seed in the same way. Christopher Lloyd introduced a dark leaved form called Brazen Hussey a great name as it is everywhere in my garden, I cannot get rid of it. I think they are tubers.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    I'm thinking @nutcutlet is right - Arum.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • borgadrborgadr Posts: 718
    I'm with @nutcutlet - definitely sounds like Arum maculatum (though if the root looks like what Pete.8 posted then I'm wrong). In my garden, the leaves have just started unfurling now.

    While they are quite invasive, they're not too intrusive as the foliage pretty much disappears by summer. They're quite pretty eventually when the berries form, but I try to deadhead any that I don't have time to dig up, otherwise they do spread everywhere. Berries and roots definitely in the brown bin and not on the compost heap - they seem pretty indestructible!
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I can't add anything to the suggestions, but if you can get a photo in daylight, that will help confirm it  :)

    Don't worry - you aren't the first, and won't be the last, person who has nurtured something that you think is valuable. I know I have, and so have many others. I think my favourite was the person who had a lovely pot of common buttercups, thinking they were something special. She had the very good grace to enjoy the joke when she found out!   :)
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    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546
    Buttercups are special! :)
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