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  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    Closely related, if you want to get rid of an old fridge/freezer/washing machine etc, pop it into the cardboard packaging that the new one came in and leave it at the end of your drive. It should be gone by the morning.
    Rutland, England
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Today's offering at the waterfall is an orange with a bit of heather shoved through it. There was also a perfectly decent apple there too.
    This is the other one that's up in the woods. It hasn't been maintained for a while by the looks of it. At least it stops the tree getting nicked. A few have been cut down for Christmas this year.

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    On the subject of shrines, we had a local fatal road accident some years ago when a very drunk 18 yr girl on her birthday got in her car at 2 am and crashed it half a mile later into someone's house wall. The occupant, who was a nurse rushed to help but the girl died in her arms. The nurse was traumatised by the incident.

    Every year, the girl's family tie flowers, balloons, ribbons etc on the anniversary date to the railings exactly opposite this poor woman's house.

    The Council have made a point of removing them a week later.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • SuesynSuesyn Posts: 664
    edited December 2022
    A friend who lost her only child in a road accident wanted to put some sort of marker at the site of the accident. She asked the council if it was permissable and was told that bulbs and perrenial wildflowers were OK but nothing which required maintenance or would not cope with the verge being mowed. She asked my advice about seed bombs as it wasn't really a suitable place to try and do any sort of gardening but I don't think it was a successful solution. 
  • When I was a child we made a trip, maybe twice a year, from Suffolk to visit my Gardening Granny who lived in Bedfordshire … I suffered from travel sickness and Ma would try to keep my mind off the nausea by getting me to watch out for regular way-markers along the route … a particular favourite was the Gypsy boy’s grave near Newmarket … http://www.thegranthams.co.uk/paul/graves/gypsyboy.html 

    I still look out for it if travelling that way. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Lizzie27 said:
    On the subject of shrines, we had a local fatal road accident some years ago when a very drunk 18 yr girl on her birthday got in her car at 2 am and crashed it half a mile later into someone's house wall. The occupant, who was a nurse rushed to help but the girl died in her arms. The nurse was traumatised by the incident.

    Every year, the girl's family tie flowers, balloons, ribbons etc on the anniversary date to the railings exactly opposite this poor woman's house.

    The Council have made a point of removing them a week later.
    The sound of the crash from the fatal accident opposite my daughter's house woke her up. She couldn't see anything but could hear someone screaming so woke my son-in-law who is a fireman. He went to assist and quickly realized one of the lads was dead so concentrated on the injured boy and called for an ambulance. Fortunately, the Fire Service provide their men and women with counseling support to deal with their emotional well-being, having to deal with some gruesome situations.
    That poor nurse must have struggled with flashbacks and wondering if she could have or should have done more etc. etc. etc. My son-in-law never talked about what he did at the scene of the accident he went to but, as part of his work, he has to deal with distressing scenes regularly.
    The layperson who kindly goes to help at scenes of accidents does not have help with the aftermath and to be reminded every year must be awful.
    I do not know the family of the man killed at the end of our lane but I still find the shrine disquieting, it triggers me into thinking about his children and family left behind and also, the poor lady driver whose van the speeding driver hit and how she must feel whenever she drives past.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    @Joyce Goldenlily What I don't understand is why the bereaved families put flowers on the actual side instead of wherever their loved ones are buried.

    Your son in law is a hero in my mind. They must experience some truly awful scenes.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • As per @Lizzie27 Surely it would be better and more environmentally aware to reserve memorials and the like for the spot at which the deceased is actually buried whether corpse or ashes in a container ?  The family/friends can usually visit whenever they wish.  Far more personal and meaningful rather than the family ( and others ) possibly being constantly reminded of the spot at which they lost someone ?
    Living next to a Churchyard and Cemetary, I see people all the time - renewing their plants/flowers or simply having a quiet moment with their thoughts.
    War memorials and those sites where many people have died in 1 incident ( bombings, fires ) could be construed differently but in most circumstances, grief is really a private/personal issue.  
  • I wonder if the closing of local church cemeteries has anything to do with it. There is always a Garden of Rest with crematoriums but because they tend to be centrally sited maybe people find it too far to travel to visit, to lay flowers, or sit quietly for a while. They also have rules about what can be left, where things can be left,  as well as fees.
    When my mother died the powers that be at the Garden of Rest wanted to charge us £67.00 just to scatter her ashes. That was 20 years ago so goodness knows what they might charge now.
    It has occurred to me that I have never seen anyone making a shrine or leaving flowers. Do they go in the dead of night? Does that indicate a level of guilt at what they are doing or embarrassment?

    I brought the bouquet from my daughter's garden home with me and am enjoying them. I am amazed at how well they have lasted after a week on her lawn with no water.
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