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ID please! Now with picture :)
2 climbers which seem to be thriving in shade on a North-facing fence. Neighbour (from where they've come, through the fence) I think has star jasmine and honeysuckle, but don't let that put you off IDing them accurately! Thanks!

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Top one looks like a clematis of some sort
Bottom one looks like a Virginia Creeper type of climber
Neither are star jasmine
Billericay - Essex
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