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rambling rose choice

Has anyone ever grown either Lady of the Lake rambler or Ghislaine de Feligonde on an average size arch?  I'm wondering if they would be too large?
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  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    My Gheslaine is grown on a fence .It’s huge and would be far too big and heavy to go on an arch .But I suppose if you kept it cut and thinned ,it might be ok ,but boy o boy can they get big .
  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601
    I understand that ramblers just don't work on an arch. Try a more modest climber.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited October 2022
    Posy said:
    I understand that ramblers just don't work on an arch. Try a more modest climber.
    I'm inclined to agree.
    There are some exceptions e.g.
    https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/products/snow-goose

    PS - ordinary shrub roses can be used as climbers.
    I used to have a shrub rose (name escapes me atm) that I trained onto a fence and it covered more than 1 6ft panel.
    I have rose Moonlight in the garden. It's wound its way into a rowan and is about 12ft up the tree. It's also made its way along the fence by about 15ft. It's the first rose to flowers in May with a huge flush. It then flowers much less until well into December.
    https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/products/moonlight

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited October 2022
    It's exciting to hear that a single Ghislaine de Feligonde and Moonlight rose can get so big. How long have you had yours in @Pete.8  - is it just one plant?

    I do hear that ramblers are not recommended for arches as they are just too hard to train and chaotic in growth habit.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Yes, it's just 1 plant @Fire
    It's been in probably about 20 years

    The base of the plant is now smothered by the euonymus hedge and weigela, so I can't even reach it. It's worked its way up through the weigela and is now about 1/2 way up the rowan.
    My neighbour has an even better display on her side!

    This pic is from last year - it's higher up the rowan now.


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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Wonderful! Mine is already great in two years. It might eat the house in 20. There are  two doing well.

  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Oh yes - I remember you bought one now.
    Glad its doing well for you :)
    Thx for turning the pic too x

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    @Hilary_15 I have both of these, not growing on arches but against rigid mesh fences.  Niether is yet at full growth but I have seen mature Ghislaines going a long way so, ofr na arch, I'd advise Lady of the Lake.   She's easily bendable and repeat flowers and won't be as rampant but will flower well if encouraged by good planting and annual feeding and mulching.
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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    @Pete.8  I got the Moonlight entirely on your recomm and it's one of the only roses I've bought that was the right rose for the right place first time.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    😇 Glad to have helped @Fire

    I bought 7 DA roses for a new border a few years ago - I hate all of them 😂


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