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Fungicides … now are we going to take this seriously?i

DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
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I first raised this problem in 2019 …
https://forum.gardenersworld.com/discussion/1030843/fungicide-worries/p1

now we’re here … I know it’s the DM but they’re featuring a report by the World Health Organisation … it’s worth reading … the subject matter is important even if the reporting style is 😖 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11354181/Fatal-fungi-releases-list-dangerous-fungal-pathogens-growing-threat.html


 

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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    To answer your question - probably not
    We reap what we sow

    We've dramatically upset the balance this planet has enjoyed for billions of years.
    Now we're just starting to pay the price.
    Earth is fighting back in order to preserve itself.

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    we don't learn, we continue our destructive path. No need to look further than this forum, 'How can I kill this insect?' 'Which killer spray works best?' It all contributes towards our extinction


    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    nutcutlet said:
    we don't learn, we continue our destructive path. No need to look further than this forum, 'How can I kill this insect?' 'Which killer spray works best?' It all contributes towards our extinction
    🤔 Maybe that’s what it’ll take to heal the planet? 

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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    I can never understand that some gardeners always respond to problems with their plants by thinking 'what can I spray or treat it with'. Perhaps the first question should be is it stressed by the conditions it is growing in and would be better off elsewhere. 
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I wonder if people nowadays have a built in fear of insects or any creature they don't understand, so their first thought is to get rid of it. Spiders indoors is a common one.

    The constant promotion of 'sprays' for the house, not to mention these wipes they've all been flushing down the loo for years, doesn't help. These things are needed at times, but folk don't seem to have any common sense about them. A sterile house, and they want the outside space to be the same.
    Balance rarely seems to come into it  :/
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  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    Fungal infections are always a problem  in immunocompromised people. There is a very limited range of antifungals  that are effective in humans and not toxic as well.  People will cystic fibrosis  have a constant battle against it, often cycling  antibiotics, changing month by month.  Eventually they  get resistant strains that do not respond to treatment.
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited March 2023
    GardenerSuze said:
    I can never understand that some gardeners always respond to problems with their plants by thinking 'what can I spray or treat it with'.
    I have just come across this thread.

    My answer is that we are conditioned to an instant and easy cure.  A medicine for every ailment.  A pill for every imagined physical or mental deficiency.  Chemicals for disinfecting,  sprays for deodorising, liquids for cleaning.  A councel for every wobble.  A snack for every moment.

    Is it surprising if the average gardener thinks the same way?

    I give enquirers what they ask for, what they will do anyway, but in a thought through helpful way.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    And the main reason we have so many antibiotic resistant infections in humans, is the large scale of their misuse in animals, over many decades.
    it is no longer rare, to find infections, resistant to all known antibiotics.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    edited March 2023
    @Bede Surely the first question to ask when a plant is struggling is, did I place that  there because it looks nice, disregarding it's growing conditions. Answering that first of all would save time reaching for an instant cure. Something that all gardeners have done including myself. 
    I am an average gardener but my thought processes are very different, I don't spray anything. My garden is a healthy space as a result no need to introduce more chemicals to counterbalance those already used.' A slippery slope' indeed. 

    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @Bede Perhaps you could start a new thread and ask forum members for their thoughts on the use of chemicals in the garden and the advice they would give to new gardeners.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
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