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Plants for this spot..?

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  • JennyJ said:
    No problem, you'll come up with something else suitable. You'll probably have to keep taking out the JA though. It's no coincidence that root cuttings is the recommended method of propagation - any broken-off bit will regrow. Nepeta will be fine if yours is the sunny side. Otherwise maybe Erigeron karviskianus  - it's supposed to prefer full sun but I have it near the east-facing side of the house which only gets morning sun, and there's some that self seeded into paving cracks by the north side of the house. Or Alchemilla mollis if it's shady. Both of those are also hard to get rid of once they're established, so make sure you like them before you commit!
    Thanks Jenny- good advice as always! I’ve bee man fighting the battle of the JA for a year already- that probably explains the hatred!, and you weren’t to know that!
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    The pink J. anems are definitely more of a problem than the whites, as they cope with drier conditions.
    Certainly not a good site for any kind of hydrangea. I'd echo the aforementioned Cotoneaster. If you pick one of the evergreen ones, they can be very sculptural, and as well as being great for wildlife, they take any amount of abuse - pruning can be done whenever you want, but you have all year round colour. You can also underplant with bulbs and/or low growing perennials for a succession of colour and interest. 
    Other considerations might be some of the Euonymous fortunei which will 'climb' and give a good backdrop. E. Silver Queen is particularly good for that. It's not strictly a climber, but will give the appearance of one if given a solid structure behind it. 

    The wall isn't the bonniest, and even when painted, it'll be less attractive than a rendered one, so something evergreen will help enormously  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • How about Libertia and Nepetas? With some spring bulbs?
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    Nepeta would work well there if there’s a fair amount of sun.  You could interplant it with a tall columnar grass to achieve some height.  Panicum northwind is a good one, it will be set off well by your wall when painted cream.
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Is the soil pretty free draining,all these bulbs and grasses would expect it? Honestly folks who know me know I have a decent sized garden,I love the JAs,they don't spread in my garden. I have a devil of a job to grow them. A couple of years ago, I treated myself to "Frilly Knickers" it was blooming expensive,and did nothing!
  • Is the soil pretty free draining,all these bulbs and grasses would expect it? Honestly folks who know me know I have a decent sized garden,I love the JAs,they don't spread in my garden. I have a devil of a job to grow them. A couple of years ago, I treated myself to "Frilly Knickers" it was blooming expensive,and did nothing!
    The drainage is pretty decent from what I can see. I’ve put some sand in as well as some soil enricher )compost/ leaf mould). 

    The JA thing is funny. I remember when they first started appearing I read a thread in here about them in an attempt to find out how to rid myself of them, and lots of people were saying the same as you.
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    I think some of the newer fancier varieties are more fussy than the older types, which don't always move easily as growing plants but are easy from root cuttings and once established are tough as old boots. "White Swan" is renowned for being harder to establish.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @Fairygirl Has mentioned one of the variegated Euonymous this will cover the wall all year. You could go with the theme of cream or gold flowers with a touch of purple. Salvia Caradonna perhaps.
    There is also variegated cotoneaster dainty flowers in spring lovely berries and autumn colours. Creating a small border for all seasons isn't easy. Perhaps a narcissus such as thalia would work with the cream form you could also add Erodium crysanthus with plenty of drainage and full sun. A plain green leaf will also be necessary to calm things down!
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • You’ve all given me a lot to think about. I think I might kick for touch for now, and plant it up with spring bulbs, then I can revisit in Spring when they’re done.
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    Good call.
    Daffodils/narcissi and crocuses will be fine in sun or shade, not too fussy about soil type and won't mind having other things planted over/amongst them in spring (while you can still see where they are). Tulips are mostly a bit more picky - they like to be baked in the sun over the summer (not shaded by the wall or by plants) and many aren't very reliable about reappearing the next year. As already mentioned alliums like free-draining soil.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
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