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Creocote

Penny_ForthemPenny_Forthem Posts: 455
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We've created a new raised bed out of wood and creocoted it.
We cannot find out if we can fill the bed and plant it straight away, or if we should leave it a while before filling.
Anyone any idea please?
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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @Penny_Forthem I don't know the answer but I would have thought the manufacturers should give that type of information to customers as a legal requirement.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited October 2022
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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    I wouldn't be at all happy with growing edibles in such an environment. It looks really toxic stuff.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited October 2022
    I can't see what it's made of. It just says "oil based".


  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Creosote isn’t what it was,  they’ve taken out the bad active ingredient now. 
    Is it called Creocote now?  that’s probably the new name for the less lethal version we used to use. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    Line the planter with black plastic, and make holes or slits in the bottom, corresponding to the drainage holes in the planter.  That will stop any possible effect the Creocote may have on the soil, and also make the wood last a lot longer than it would on its own;  Even protected wood will rot really quickly when in contact with damp soil.
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    This is what their fact sheet says.
    This material should not be allowed into drains, sewers or other water courses. In the wet state harmful to animals and plants but once dry (48 hours) product is not considered unsafe. Splashes on leaves of plants will cause burns but long term systemic damage is unlikely.

    This is for creocote, not creosote. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    edited October 2022
    Like so many things that haver been used in gardens over the years it is in the future that the damage is realised. I mentioned Benlate the other day I used it for couch grass for many years. Years later it was withdrawn following some horrific incidents. I should add that I am aware that the product is Creocote. I think it is bad advice to tell someone what they should do in this case especially if planting edibles, scientific evidence changes regularly.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • philippasmith2philippasmith2 Posts: 3,742
    @Lyn's right - Creosote was I think banned for sale to the general public some years ago.  
    The new product is Creocote which is, we are told, safe to use..  Apply and let it thoroughly dry before filling with soil/compost.
    For raised beds, I simply use pressure treated wood and line with old compost bags much as @BobTheGardener describes. Edibles/non edibles are not affected using this method.
          
       
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Yes Philippa, banned years ago,  I’ve never used this creocote.  Apparently it’s smells just as bad. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

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