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Help with David austin madam curare

jamesholtjamesholt Posts: 593
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I planted these two roses from David austin about 18 months ago.  They haven't grown or flowered as well as I had hoped?  What am I doing wrong?

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  • jamesholtjamesholt Posts: 593
    I use Bayer rose care feed 2x year
  • rossdriscoll13rossdriscoll13 Posts: 234
    Deadheading would help. I can see loads of old blooms that should be cut off.   If you don’t deadhead the rose will stop blooming.  Taking the spent flower heads off promotes new flowers to replace them.  Apart from that from the photo they look perfectly fine.  David Austin Roses can take 2-3 years to really get going so you need to be patient.  The same goes for all plants the trouble is everyone wants instant results.  How much water are they getting?  From May to September you need to be giving each rose a whole 7-10 litre watering can of water once every 2 weeks.  In really hot weather once a week.  How much sun do they get?  Roses need at least 8 hours of sun a day or a minimum of 4-5 in order to grow and flower well.
  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546
    @jamesholt Just to clarify - Your post triggered alarm bells for me!
    I had to g**gle to check, but yes,  Curare is a poison, it was Madam Marie Curie that worked on radium and radioactivity :)
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Just to clarify, Marie Curie, if that’s what it is, is a floribunda by Meilland (France) and not a David Austin bred rose, although they may sell it. Maximum height is stated as 90cm so it’s actually grown very well in 18 months! I don’t know it’s reputation in your climate James, some roses refuse to bloom well in hot climates. Nor am I familiar with the rose feed you mention. A deep, regular watering, extra potassium feed during the flowering season and yes deadheading will help it bloom more. Floribundas are quick to establish and bloom, usually, so you don’t have the same establishment problem as many DA roses, which often have a good dose of heirloom rose in their genes.

    Did you buy it own root or grafted? Own root take longer to get going, but I suspect that’s a grafted rose, probably on Dr. Huey - a vigorous rootstock.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • WAMSWAMS Posts: 1,960
    Looks good to me for 18 months! (Can't zoom in on this device but yes, deadhead for more blooms as @rossdriscoll13 said)
  • jamesholtjamesholt Posts: 593
    Thanks everyone for your help.  I guess it would help to get the name right!  We have a david austin nursery near me here in texas and I got these roses in tiny pots. Here in texas we have full sun and furnace. They are in full sun.  
  • rossdriscoll13rossdriscoll13 Posts: 234
    As they’re climbing roses they need some form of support, such as trellis or wires, so they can be tied in.  Tying the stems horizontally onto the trellis or wires means you will get more flowers.  Also the roses look like they are planted too closely. Climbing roses should be planted at least 6 feet apart.


  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Ah, OK, James, Madame Alfred Carriére is an entirely different beast and you certainly won’t need two such vigorous climbers planted so close together. One alone will eventually get HUGE and the one near your window will easily engulf it it time! Although it is an old French tea/noisette rose that can certainly take some heat, it is also ‘shade tolerant’ so may not be ideal planted in full sun.

    Climbers do take several years to get established and come into their full growth and blooming potential. They put most of their energy in the first year or two putting down roots and then growing their long climbing canes (main stems). My MAC only gave me a few flowers in it’s first year so looks as if yours is doing much better already.

    Climbers also flower best when their canes are trained near to horizontal, so they develop lots of flowering laterals (side shoots) along the length of each cane. If you grow it straight up it will only flower on the top of each cane and that’s what I’m seeing there..
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • jamesholtjamesholt Posts: 593
    Thank everyone
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