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Can you garden in a wildlife friendly way and not have rats?

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Here are Bruce's thoughts on rats and compost (Ireland).







  • CatDouchCatDouch Posts: 488
    Very interesting @Fire  it confirms my thoughts about getting rid of my compost bin as they obviously love them and I don’t want to become overrun with them. I’m beginning to avoid going into my back garden as I saw when during the day yesterday, it ran out from under a bush and then swam across my pond. If my dog saw it she’d chase it and potentially get bitten as she’s not got the terrier killer instinct and I don’t want that to happen.  I’m dreading helping my husband dismantle it as I imagine rats will jump out and I definitely have a rat phobia.  Just writing this brings me out in a sweat 😥 
    South Devon 
  • CatDouchCatDouch Posts: 488
    Hi @StephenSouthwest no I am absolutely against poison as I don’t want it to get into the food chain.  We have owls and buzzards nearby and last year 3 tawny owl chicks use to line up on the tree at the edge of our drive and wait to be fed. But …. I’m getting a bit of pressure from others who think poison is a quick fix, whereas I’m trying to make my garden less attractive to them by hopefully removing the compost bin and putting a baffle on the pole in the bird feeding station.  Fingers crossed my plan works!
    South Devon 
  • PalustrisPalustris Posts: 4,307
    @Dove When I said black I meant in colour rather than the species. The rats we used to see which came out of the sewers were dark coloured, but the ones in our country garden were light brown.
    We did not use poison either so we just lived with it. Not very fond of them either.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited October 2022
    CDouch said:
    Very interesting @Fire  it confirms my thoughts about getting rid of my compost bin as they obviously love them and I don’t want to become overrun with them.
    Bruce is a farming situation and grows crops over a large area. He is fully rural, generates all year masses of food, and hosts large compost systems for his local eco village. So the situ is probably very different from yours in those regards. But yes, rats have large litters and become sexually mature quickly.

    [rats] become sexually mature in about three months. Each female may produce from 3 to 12 litters of between six and eight young in a year. Rats need to gnaw to keep their constantly growing incisor teeth worn down. They damage woodwork, plastic, bricks and lead pipes, and will strip insulation from electrical cables.

     I’m dreading helping my husband dismantle it as I imagine rats will jump out and I definitely have a rat phobia.  Just writing this brings me out in a sweat 😥

    Maybe pay someone for the afternoon to shift it and dismantle it for you. Find someone who isn't bothered about rats. I would imagine it would be worth the money, for you.

    I would say that your garden should give you pleasure - it's your own home. If the rats are filling you with dread, that is quite enough of a reason to get rid of the compost bins asap.


  • UffUff Posts: 3,199
    I've subscribed to his channel Fire as he seems like a knowledgeable person so thank you for that.
    SW SCOTLAND but born in Derbyshire
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    @Uff Bruce's videos are all about experiment and trials. Pushing nothing, selling nothing, not trying to convince anyone of anything. He's the most solidly reasoning person I follow on Youtube. He carefully amasses great quanity of data from his trials every year and presents it well. Well worth subscribing. [I have Adblocker so I never see any ads on Youtube, or anywhere else.]
  • CatDouchCatDouch Posts: 488
    @fire I’m hoping that I can help my husband with moral support from a distance 😂
    South Devon 
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Having looked after patients with severe Weils disease, I can understand people disliking rats.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    punkdoc said:
    Having looked after patients with severe Weils disease, I can understand people disliking rats.

    It is mostly waterborne, though - from lakes and rivers etc.
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