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Help with damage limitation: wilt and subsidence risk

Hello :) advice greatly appreciated. My small garden is on sloping chalk. The neighbours garden is approx 1.5 meters lower and the divide is held with a supporting wall which is leaning more each year. When we arrived there was only one plant on our (north facing) fence , an established pyracantha approx 2.5m high but sits about one foot from the fence and wall. Neighbours own the boundary fence. Then the following happened: 
- I planted a 1 meter high acer and 1 meter high twisted hazel, both about 1 meter from boundary and each other and pyracantha.
- acer got verticillium wilt
- acer died and was pulled up summer
-pyracantha is now showing signs of die back


Question 1:
I dont want to make the wall less secure by chopping pyracantha down, but also don’t want the wilt to spread to hazel (sentimental gift). 

Why’s best to do? 

Question 2:

Space is premium. Its north facing so solorization isn’t an option. Any ideas on how to use space without adding a lot of weight? Can I use it as a compost area if I lay plastic beneath it?


Thank you in advance! 
 


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  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    Who does the retaining wall belong to? Is it the neighbour's, the same as the fence? I think the top priority is to make sure it's safe and stable before doing anything near it. "Leaning more each year" would worry me if I were either you or your neighbour.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited August 2022
    Oh dear..
    There's a list of susceptible plants on the RHS site - 
    https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/pdfs/verticillium-host-list.pdf

    Hazel is not listed, so it may not be affected by VW, nor is pyracantha.
    I've had an acer with VW for many years, the nearby amelanchier also has it, but other shrubs in the area are fine.

    PS - are you sure it's VW?
    I confirmed mine when I saw black rings on the cut surface of branches that I pruned
    Lots of shrubs have suffered die-back this year due to environmental conditions


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Sazz101Sazz101 Posts: 248
    Thanks, both for your replies. Whose wall is it? I assume theirs as the fence is there’s but I will ask them. 

    Sadly yes I’m sure it’s VW. Took a couple of years for me to accept it and let it go! In the end it only had one decent branch left. Coral fungus had infected the stubs of my inexpert amputations. Black rings etc. 


    This is the pyracantha die back. Could it possibly not be VW? Been here 9 years. Never seen this before:


  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    An obvious sign on my acer is black 'bruises' along the stems where there is dieback.
    I'll post a pic when I get back from walkies.

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Back from walkies - had a look at my acer and I can see no sign of the bruises atm.
    I prune out the affected wood each spring.
    A pic from the web shows what I mean-


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Sazz101Sazz101 Posts: 248
    Thanks @Pete.8 for having a look. Yes, the die back on the acer looked very similar… patches of grey on other wise green branches. 

     The blackening on the pyracanthas branch (top branch in pic) also shows the blackening, although on the tip rather than a mid point. 

    Might just give it a feed and see how it does. 

    Thank you :) 
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    No, don't feed it if you think it's ailing, it won't do the plant any good. I would give it a good water (2 canfulls) if you haven't already done so, then just wait and see.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I agree. It's been a very harsh summer for many plants (and people) this year.
    Hopefully it's just a bit of dieback. Easy to prune out in the spring when you can check its health properly

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Sazz101Sazz101 Posts: 248
    Lizzie27 said:
    No, don't feed it if you think it's ailing, it won't do the plant any good. I would give it a good water (2 canfulls) if you haven't already done so, then just wait and see.
    Just a good water then. Thank you! 
  • The pyracantha is very pale, it should be a nice dark green. I think it's either been slightly bleached in the sun or is lacking nutrients. 
    I wouldn't feed it yet, just give it a nice mulch this autumn and then perhaps feed when it starts to grow next year. I would however nip all those dead parts off now down to the berries. I do this twice a year on my pyracantha, to keep it to the same frame works without losing the berries that the birds love. It might help stop the dieback and will give the wood enough time to harden before the cold weather. 
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