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Creating a garden from scratch... Where to start?!

emily.trayemily.tray Posts: 1
edited July 2022 in Problem solving
We moved into an 80s build last year and were faced with this... 

Where on earth do we start?! 

The easy option would be to get a landscape gardener in and let them take care of the whole thing, but sadly we don't have the budget for that. So, we are undertaking the project ourselves. We are novice gardeners but used to love to potter around our old garden. 

The obvious problem are the weeds, which are the main thing we're seeking your advice on. We are planning to extend the patio along the first half of the garden (alongside the house), and would like to have a lawn and borders for flowers on the other half. 

What is the best way to kill the weeds off so that they don't come back and best weed killer to use (with the plan to lay a lawn and plant flowers in the future)? 

Any advice is greatly received!!
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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Hi @emily.tray. It can be daunting when it looks like that, but if you have a strimmer, or even just a lawnmower, it's easiest to just cut it back. Then you can see what you're dealing with. It's not a huge area, so that helps. When you get some re growth, you can use an appropriate weedkiller, but bear in mind that if you intend doing the lawn at some point this year, you need to wait several weeks to allow the ground to recover before doing that.
    You'll still get weeds coming in from elsewhere, or from the existing site though, and would need to keep on top of them, so it might be better to just keep cutting it back regularly, and dig out or spot kill any persistent weeds until you're ready to prep the site properly for the turf. If you intend doing the patio this year, that would probably be the best solution for now anyway, as the ground will all get disturbed.  :)
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  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    I'm guessing that you might have a bit of a difference in levels, looking at the height of that manhole cover @emily.tray
    If you follow @Fairygirl 's advice and use a lawnmower or strimmer and assuming you haven't already made a start, please do a check for any lurking wildlife before you begin.
    Depending on whereabouts you are in the UK, the predicted heat might crisp them up a bit.

    It doesn't look that large an area from the perspective l'm seeing. Personally l would attack it with a fork if the ground is soft enough, and get out as much as possible by hand if you can.
    If you'd rather use a weedkiller,  Roundup is pretty good, there are various types available, so best to see which one is most suited to your needs.
    Hope this helps  :)
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    I agree with the others, first get it cut back, including trimming the edges. It'll look better even if it's full of weeds. You can spot-treat any really deep-rooted types of weeds when they grow back and you can see what's what. If you clear it to bare earth it won't stay that way for long, there'll be weed seeds in the soil and more will blow in on the breeze. Get the hard landscaping work done before you start on the lawn and plants so you don't have to worry about anything getting damaged (it happens even if you're doing the work yourself). In any case it's far too hot and dry for planting now, better to make plans for the autumn.
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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Agree.  Strim or mow it all back short then rake up what you've cut to start a compost heap.  Clear away any rubble or rubbish lurking in there.

    It will re-grow when you have some rain and then you can spot weed any deep-rooted weeds such as thistles or dock.  you will need several applications of a glyphosate based weed killer before they give in as every bit of roots needs to get the message.   Keep it mowed until you've got your new patio laid and only then think about forking over the whole area and removing weeds and their roots.

    You can use strings and pegs to mark out where your new patio will go and a hosepipe to mark the outlines for the lawn and borders and then look at them from every angle, including upstairs, before you commit to the soil prep for laying turf or sowing seed for a lawn in autumn or spring, depending on how quickly you get on with the paving. 
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  • didywdidyw Posts: 3,573
    I'm not an advocate of weedkiller so what I would do would be to strim it back, as has been suggested, cover the whole area with cardboard, weighted down, and leave it for a couple of months.  Then lift the cardboard and dig it all over, removing roots as you go.  If your local council does a green bin scheme for garden waste I'd put it all in there (might take a couple of bin collections).
    Gardening in East Suffolk on dry sandy soil.
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