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Red rose bush also has small white roses.

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Just be aware that if you let it grow it will eventually take over form the grafted red rose.   If you realy like the paler rose, try taking cuttings or layering it to make roots and then remove that stem right at its base before the red rose suffers.
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  • Fran IOMFran IOM Posts: 2,872
    @Obelixx Thank you for that info as it could very well be taking over at the moment as it has sent out lots of stems with no indication that there would be any flowers on them.
    I don't think I would miss it as it has been hidden up till now and the flowers don't last very long.  :)
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    @Fran IOM The grafted plant will be weaker than the root stock which is why it's grafted in the first place.  Removing the suckering stems from the rootstock will strengthen the nutrients and water flowing to your grafted rose.

    You need to make a choice but be aware that the grafted plant is likely to be a repeat flowerer, given the chance, whilst the root stock will be a once flowering rambler.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Totally agree with others, the white flowering rose is definitely a sucker from the rootstock. The rootstock (usually laxa) and the chosen red rose variety (the ‘scion’) are spliced together and the resulting, swollen knobbly bit is called the graft. So an unwanted sucker from the rootstock can appear to come from a ‘main stem’ of the red rose, but this is biologically impossible, it will be growing out of the laxa half of the graft or the roots just below it.

    If you do allow the laxa rootstock to take over it will grow huge and sprawly, far bigger than the original rose so check you have lots of space for it! If you wanted a wild rose, tbh there are much better behaved species roses, plus some hybrids that will give you that lovely wild look as well as repeat flower..
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  • Fran IOMFran IOM Posts: 2,872
    @Obelixx @Nollie Thank you for all that info. I am certainly getting educated on this forum! I will have to digest all your knowledge and decide what is the best thing to do. I didn't particularly want a dog rose in fact I only found it by chance but it took me back years in my memory and seem to recall seeing a lot of it in the countryside. I don't want it to take over as there isn't a lot of room as things stand so I think it is for the chop. 
    Thank you both for your help and time.  :)
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