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Rose ID please

Background: this rose is approx. 10 years old, I think.

It belonged to the elderly lady who died in the house we bought, a few years ago.
When we first inherited it, it was a 30cm long stick poking out amongst weeds and rubble in the front garden’s crazy paving. It survived builders trampling it, a skip squashing it and absolute zero care, for a long time.
I discovered it was there by accident, stuck it in a pot and hoped for the best.
The following spring (2019) leaf buds emerged and as it was a true fighter, we replanted it into the ground, in its current spot.
No idea which rose it is, so we named it Helen N, after its elderly first owner. I hope if she can see it from somewhere, that she is pleased.

Initially I thought it may be a Peter Beales, but now I’m not so sure.
It seems to be a very healthy, vigorous floribunda with pure white blooms and visible anthers that the bees love.
The scent is light but delicious, sweet and rather old rose.
It flowers right up to the first frosts and loves being south facing with its feet in free draining soil, London clay beneath.

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  • IlikeplantsIlikeplants Posts: 894
    No idea. Just wanted to say it looks lovely and a true survivor.
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    Looks like Iceberg to me .
  • dappledshadedappledshade Posts: 1,017
    edited June 2022
    Thanks! She is a toughie for sure.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @dappledshade Looks like Icebreg to me too. Plenty of experts here if not. It is a very old rose the lady may have had it in her garden for many years.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • dappledshadedappledshade Posts: 1,017
    edited June 2022
    Thank you! Yes, it may well be very old. Can I ask how you can tell?
    She’ll always be Helen N to me though ☺️
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    I know because I have the climbing variety of Iceberg myself. It has been growing here In the same place for 34 years .It never disappoints and passers by wait to see it every year. It really is a tough little b…….ger and doesn’t ask for more than a little Toprose or similar now and then. best £1 99 ( that was its cost in the 80s) I’ve ever spent .
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    The red veining on the leaf stems is quite distinctive, is that a characteristic of Iceberg on new foliage? I can’t recall that on mine but as it didn’t do well for me, didn’t rebloom or climb much, I didn’t take an awful lot of notice!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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