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Wisteria choices

Hello all!
Hoping someone with Wisteria knowledge can help me please?

I am hoping to grow wisteria along a south facing wall, about 8 ft high, and approx 45ft long. Will have wire supports along the wall, 3 or 4 horizontal. Planting location is roughyl in the middle of the wall. It is on our driveway and not a huge amount of soil, but hopefully enough!

I have two wisteria plants currently in pots, the small one I believe is Sinensis and then I have Amethyst Falls (Frutescens) which is more established. Please see photos. The small sinensis has a couple of main stems and the frutescens has 3 main stems, already trained around a pot trellis.

My questions are - 
1. Which would be best suited to plant and grow along the wall, given the ground conditions and size of the wall? (I'm leaning towards sinensis to get the larger flowers hopefully!)

2. Do I train a main stem straight up to the 8ft height of the wall, and cut it there, and then train branches out horizontally along my trellis wires? Or keep both main stems and send one left and one right along the wall?

3. Am I better keeping the wire a couple inches out from the wall, and tying the vine to the outside of the wires? I read somewhere not to let it go between wires and wall...?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated :)

Thank you

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    We have two large, inherited wisteria which have grown solid main trunks from which branches emerge.  Neither has any support any more as their main trunk and stems are woody and self supporting.   I think if you train new stems along wires the wires will end up in the wood as it swells and matures over the years so maybe consider a short term wooden framework while yours gets established and that can be removed when no longer needed.

    One of ours has one main branch off to the left as we look at it and this is trained above windows in the house wall.  It grows in bare ground which is part of our drive and garage access so never gets fed or watered.   Every year we remove new shoots to keep the trunk bare.

    Here it is in flower in spring.



    The other is larger and has its feet in a small bed along the garage wall so does benefit from my soil improvement and feeding efforts.   This photo is last spring - one main stem which branches to either side.  The one on the left is tied to a post on the wall behind to stop it blowing down in strong winds but has no other support.



    Now I have a similar quandary to you as I have planted a white flowered wisteria to grow along a 1m high mesh fence along the front of our veg plot after keeping it in a pot for a couple or years.  It is already woody in parts and I'm having to undo many of the winding, younger, tendril like stems from the mesh so it doesn't become part of the branches I will eventually train along the fence and up over the gate posts.  I shall probably end up using roofing lathes tied to the fence and which can be removed later when no longer needed.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Slow-wormSlow-worm Posts: 1,630
    That's gorgeous Obelixx! 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Thanks @Slow-worm

    We did inherit 2 wonderful tho neglected specimens when we moved here so we had good material to work with and now they're maintained and pruned each year they're doing very well.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • PerkiPerki Posts: 2,527
    Beautiful wisteria Obelixx .

    Out of the two you've mentioned it has to be Sinensis it a large vigorous wisteria . A.Falls it a much smaller variety which may not even cover the wall or take for ever.

    One more question does your Wisteria Sinensis have another name with it like Wisteria  Sinensis Prolific ?  You've got to be careful if its a named variety you know it been grafted and will flower much younger , Wisteria Sinensis is not a named variety it just saying what species of wisteria you've got .  None grafted wisteria can take 20 years to start flowering 
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