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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Swallows are more adaptable as to where the will set up home and cane make their own nest. Swifts need more specific conditions and need the right crevice. It's frustrating that it's so easy to set up new builds with opportunities for birds - cheap and straight forward. Like solar panels, it's so backwards to not include these aspects. Swifts should not be red listed. 🤬
  • coccinellacoccinella Posts: 1,428


    A few years ago they built this new water tower not far from where I live. I went to the open day where they displayed all the projects that had bid for the call of tender. There was one that was covered in swift and swallows nests but it didn't win. I asked why and the guy said that this was probably cheaper. Well ...
    I wish I had taken a photo of it. It was really interesting and as sleek to look at as this one.

    Luxembourg
  • coccinellacoccinella Posts: 1,428
    Fire said:
    Swallows are more adaptable as to where the will set up home and cane make their own nest. Swifts need more specific conditions and need the right crevice. It's frustrating that it's so easy to set up new builds with opportunities for birds - cheap and straight forward. Like solar panels, it's so backwards to not include these aspects. Swifts should not be red listed. 🤬
    Yes. All the old houses have gone. Understandably people repair roofs etc. Also we must consider what is happening in those places where these birds go to in winter. It can't be just us in Europe. Or can it? 

    Luxembourg
  • LunarSeaLunarSea Posts: 1,923
    Yes. All the old houses have gone. Understandably people repair roofs etc. Also we must consider what is happening in those places where these birds go to in winter. It can't be just us in Europe. Or can it? 

    I don't think Swifts are dependent on human activity outside of the breeding season being totally airborne so "what is happening in those places" is really beyond anyone's control. When they are back in Africa they follow the rains to take advantage of the clouds of airborne insects.

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Insect numbers have totally crashed - because of human activity - spraying, draining wetlands, intensive agriculture etc. So, yes, we do have a big effects on swifts and other birds. Swifts are routinely shot, along with other migrating birds. So, yes, it's a big problem.


  • bertrand-mabelbertrand-mabel Posts: 2,697
    Swifts here today and whilst we have areas for them to nest they move on. Great to see them.
  • Fire said:
    Swallows are more adaptable as to where the will set up home and cane make their own nest. Swifts need more specific conditions and need the right crevice. It's frustrating that it's so easy to set up new builds with opportunities for birds - cheap and straight forward. Like solar panels, it's so backwards to not include these aspects. Swifts should not be red listed. 🤬
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     I know fire, it's devastating. The thing that's even worse is the simple steps to make new nests. All they need to do is put a cheap swift brick in when they build things! Not rocket science. Also stop killing all the insects.
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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    It’s so straight forward! 
  • We used to have lots of swifts here but I haven't seen one for two or three years now.  I suspect the local agricultural monoculture of turf growing may be responsible.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    We used to have lots of swifts here but I haven't seen one for two or three years now.  I suspect the local agricultural monoculture of turf growing may be responsible.

    Where abouts are you @parrotfeather* ? That's v sad.
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