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Losing my 2nd Gold Crest ???

Hi everyone, I love a gold crest by my front door... I lost one last year and I thought it was under watering that caused it.
my 2nd one has been pretty healthy up until recently. The first I noticed a problem was when we had strong winds a while ago, I pushed it into the house... it maybe stayed there a week and possibly starved of light. I noticed the side close to the wall had died slightly.
Since then I moved it back, watered regularly and it's slowly looking more and more unhealthy.
it gets direct sunlight but only in the morning and evening.
Is it dying does anyone think ? Really appreciate any advice

Thank you

Tom








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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Looks ok to me. They [conifers] always have some browning at various stages, and isn't necessarily a problem, but keeping them long term in pots, near a house, and with a fair bit of sun/wind, will always make them more susceptible to problems.
    They need a lot of attention in a pot, especially if they aren't getting consistent rainfall, which that won't be getting. A good growing medium, refreshed every so often, thorough watering, but also drainage, are all very important. 
    If they get dried out, they struggle, and it's also hard to rehydrate them properly. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Agree with all of the above.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited May 2022
    I agree with all the above too - esp the bit about drainage.
    If your pot isn't on pot feet it really needs to be to ensure good drainage over the winter months when the compost can get waterlogged and cause root rot.
    If it is on pot feet - please ignore the above :)
    It's a very attractive little tree

    PS - just an afterthought - are the white stones on top something like cotswold stone - or some other sort of limestone?
    If so, they will break down and make the compost quite alkaline - which will cause problems

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  • tomcr1981tomcr1981 Posts: 51
    Thanks everyone, I've drilled some more drainage holes... Hopefully it survives. If not it might be replaced with something a little easier to look after 😊 
  • JacquimcmahonJacquimcmahon Posts: 1,039
    I have a lot of conifers in pots (too many if I’m honest). Like everyone has said they need some attention… drainage in winter, but also don’t let them get too dry in summer, even to the point of ignoring tha advice about feet and instead stick a big pot saucer under in really hot wather to ensure it’s feet get a good soaking!… contradictory I know.

    I personally would take away the stone to allow for regular compost “top ups”, it’s amazing how it vanishes and then they are even more susceptible to over and under water. Also think about turning it every few weeks, this really helps it grow more evenly.

    good luck they really are lovely, so don’t give up.
    Marne la vallée, basically just outside Paris 🇫🇷, but definitely Scottish at heart.
  • GravelEaterGravelEater Posts: 124
    I'd suggest using a bit of weed preventing liner on the top of the compost, and then gravel on top of that.  You won't see it, but it makes it easier to scrape the gravel back when root pruning and compost refreshing in later Winter/early Spring (Feb-Mar) when the conifers are still dormant.

    Being close to brick walls can dump a fair amount of heat out into the air around the plants, so drying them out.  But I doubt that would be noticeable at the moment, maybe more like at the end of Summer.

    Scrape the gravel back, check the soil an inch or so (2-3 cm) deep and see if it's remotely damp.  The gravel if thick enough, should act as a mulch to prevent some drying out, but it's a container.  If it's really wet ... good advice to raise pots on feet to allow drainage, and maybe incorporate grit into the potting medium/compost.

    Check your stones with some vinegar.  Grab a couple, pop them in a  little pot or even the sink and add some vinegar directly to them.  If there is any kind of reaction, they could be breaking down.  I think that's the general test.  Vinegar = acid.  Lemon juice would also work, but is more expensive.

    We had a ~3-4ft Chamaecyparis, planted in the ground.  Unfortunately, the plant sold in a pot had actually been grown in a clay field - urgh.  It had no real root ball and we slowly lost that one.  But that's a whole different story to what you have here.

    Best of luck.
  • grouchergroucher Posts: 59
    First of all I must say that I am by no means an expert in treating plants in containers, although I do have 12 Bonsai trees.  The main thing for Bonsai is the medium they are grown in which is normally very free draining.  I use Akadama which is pelleted clay from Japan, others use Cat Litter.  With the Clay topping on Bonsai the general rule of thumb is "When to top layer dries out" (Changes Colour) Water.   2  Never feed a sick tree.  As previously said I am not an expert and if anything I Lurk on the sidelines to get knowledge from others.  Hope this helps?

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