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  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546
    I had a variegated one which reverted. I decided I preferred the plain green leaves, so took cuttings from those and now have 2 green leaved bushes to replace the original one.
  • paulpuk2000paulpuk2000 Posts: 93
    @Adamadamant.  It's actually over the back wall (concrete panels) and if I remember correctly, the bark is a little peely.  I'll check it again.........Hmmm.  Not quite as 'peely' as I thought.  Just a bit of the bark has come away at the bottom, but that may have been me, when I was trying to clear the area.  
  • paulpuk2000paulpuk2000 Posts: 93
    Thx for the input everybody.  Really feel part of a family on here !   :-)
  • paulpuk2000paulpuk2000 Posts: 93
    @GardenerSuze I think that's just a trick of the light.  I didn't know that it could do that (revert back).  I think I'll move forward using the consensus of opinion, that it's a weigela, possibly a florida type.  Thank you.
  • paulpuk2000paulpuk2000 Posts: 93
    edited May 2022
    Actually, on further checking, it does look remarkably like Kolkwitzia, and on checking, that grows up to 10 feet high, whereas Weigela grows 4/5 ft high, it seems.  So as the plant is 9/10 ft high, it may well be a Kolkwitzia??   Intriguing.  Anybody anything else to add?
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    My Weigela grew quite a bit taller than me, I'm 5'3".
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    The shape of the buds have a ridged look, like a Weigela. The buds of Kolkwitzia are smooth.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • paulpuk2000paulpuk2000 Posts: 93
    Copied this from the Go Botany site.......

    New England state
    • Massachusetts
    • Vermont
    Growth form
    the plant is a shrub (i.e., a woody plant with several stems growing from the base)
    Leaf type
    the leaf blade is simple (i.e., lobed or unlobed but not separated into leaflets)
    Leaves per node
    there are two leaves per node along the stem
    Leaf blade edges
    • the edge of the leaf blade has no teeth or lobes
    • the edge of the leaf blade has teeth
    Leaf duration
    the leaves drop off in winter (or they wither but persist on the plant)
    armature on plant
    the plant does not have spines, prickles, or thorns
    Leaf blade length
    30–80 mm
    Leaf blade width
    15–25 mm
    Leaf stalk
    the leaves have leaf stalks
    Fruit type (general)
    the fruit is dry but does not split open when ripe
    Bark texture
    • the bark of an adult plant is thin and smooth
    • the bark of an adult plant peels off easily or hangs off

      It says leaf blade width is 15-25 mms, but mine are 50mms wide, so I'm leaning back towards weigela, despite their similarity.  Perhaps this is a very old weigela, and therefore grown much higher than a typical one?  In fact, maybe I should have pruned it long before now?  It is a beautiful plant though, and gradually we have 'trained it to come over our fence.  

  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @paulpuk2000 k2000 It would seem that Kolkwitzia flowers has a spotted throat.
    Lots of trees and shrubs can revert it is essential to cut away reversion as soon as you see it. The plain stems can grow stronger due to better photosythesis and take over. 
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • adamadamantadamadamant Posts: 278
    No You're right the bark doesnt look like Kolwitzia bark.  
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