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Peat-free compost disappointment

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  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    I also grabbed a bag of Westland MPC with 'added John Innes' and that was much better. To be honest I would have preferred Peat Free but just grabbed them in a rush. Heard good things about Melcourt Sylvagrow Peat Free compost, but it's not always available.
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • Bee witchedBee witched Posts: 1,295
    I'm another victim of the New Horizon peat-free. Utter rubbish.
    They really need to up their game ... big style.

    I really like the Jack's Magic too .... but was trying to be greener.

    I make a lot of my own compost, but do need to use bought in stuff from time to time.

    Bee x

    Gardener and beekeeper in beautiful Scottish Borders  

    A single bee creates just one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey in her lifetime
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Jack's Magic is hard to beat @Bee witched.
    Good for virtually everything, and even for seed sowing. I usually add a bit of Perlite if it's for sowing lighter weight plants - things like Basil, that need really free draining conditions. Other than that, it's brilliant. 
    I'm trying to do the same, but if it isn't up to the job, I'll be having a rethink. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • HeliosHelios Posts: 232
    edited March 2022
    I’ve used New Horizon in previous years and it’s been good. Happily bought a bag earlier this year and…same as the others who’ve posted here, awful.

    This year chance I happened to sow sweet peas in several pots of it and then some more in pots with Westland compost and Bulrush compost.  Same growing conditions, the only difference in treatment was in the compost. The New Horizon were later instantly recognisable by their weedy look and leaves that began to look pale. The others are flourishing. 
    QED as far as I’m concerned!


  • WatsoniaWatsonia Posts: 134
    In have been using Melcourt Sylvagrow Peat Free for a couple of years now and its pretty good. It is quite light, very free draining.  Not the cheapest option, it’s usually on at 3 for 20 Pound. 
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    My Sylvacourt hs been fine, New Horizon was great. As there is considerable pressure on companies to use public green waste, products may get more hit and miss for now. Quality control is an issue.

    Mostly it seems that commercial "compost"  (substrate) is mostly of to use because of its qualities as a sponge. And to provide an open root system - which these dodgy products almost certainly does. The matrix doesn't offer much in the way of nutrition in itself - fertilisers are added for that. So for growing annuals the question is really - does it hold water well?

    It doesn't really matter what it looks like. Fungi in the mix is not a concern. Anything too woody or too dusty may not hold water well.
  • LunarSeaLunarSea Posts: 1,923
    Just found a page discussing what happened to the 'New Horizon' brand - All Change for Some Modern Peat-free Composts This Spring | earthfriendlygardener.net

    It says:

    "Westland Horticulture took over the previous manufacturer of New Horizon Organic & Peat Free Multi-Purpose Compost (William Sinclair Horticulture Ltd) in 2016. Since then, they have reformulated this peat-free compost so that it no longer contains any ‘green waste’, which is what the old tried and trusted New Horizon was based on. The new-look bags of New Horizon (below) now contain the same basic mix that’s also sold as Gro-Sure Peat Free All-Purpose Compost (a blend of coir, wood fibre and bark).
    The reason New Horizon no longer contains green waste is because Westland believe that ‘green waste is simply not up to the standard or consistency required by all and is not delivering the results our consumers deserve’. It’s a curious comment, given that New Horizon has been a mainstay of peat-free gardening for many, for many years. You can’t help wondering whether scaremongering by pro-peat (and by association anti-nature) gardening pundits has finally gotten a bite."
    Clay soil - Cheshire/Derbyshire border

    I play with plants and soil and sometimes it's successful

  • So what peat free compost is recommended? Is the problem with peat free of having to add nutrients straight away or is it texture/water retention?
  • TheGreenManTheGreenMan Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2022
    I’ve been using Wickes peat-free for the last 12 months and have had no issues with it. All of the plants I’ve potted on have gone on to be successful in the pot or when moved into the ground after being in the medium for a while. 

    Lots of people have left negative reviews because of the “smell” of it…. I have hyperosmia and it doesn’t offend me. But then again I’m not using it as pot pourri so….
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
     "You can’t help wondering whether scaremongering by pro-peat (and by association anti-nature) gardening pundits"
    I think that's a really offensive statement, and a sweeping generalisation. 

    @mandyroberts99 - all compost, whether peat based or not,  has food/nutrients added to it. How you use any compost depends on what it's being used for, so that dictates what else you add to it, whether it's extra food, or grit, or something more substantial. Seeds don't have the same requirements as a shrub for example   :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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