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hardening off and planting out autumn-sown peas and sweetpeas

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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I missed that bit of info relocation  - apologies  :(
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • REMF33REMF33 Posts: 731
    edited February 2022

    What I have done now is pot on the peas and sweet peas (similar pots to yours, @BenCotto - I got mine from Sarah Raven last year with this in mind, but wanted to avoid if possible because of extra compost involved and general laziness!) I have probably killed a couple of plants in the process, but fingers crossed. The broad beans though... they are about a foot high and still in root trainers and I noticed today that some have started flowering! I think they need to go out asap so I have started hardening them off. They have been frozen in the green house (some blackened leaves at one point) but survived, so possibly wind is the biggest worry?
    could put them under a giant plastic/polythene cloche but I think they will probably be ok once hardened off...?
    The broad beans and peas are all ones that are recommended for autumn sowing, so are supposed to be quite hardy.
    Off course I lost all the labels while potting on. I thought they were individually labelled, but realized, too late that I have only labelled starts or columns. My memory is not what it was...! Some are avola and the rest of meteor. They are both quite short ones so should be ok... Must NOT do this with the broad beans.
    Re hardy (flower) annuals, the ones I sowed and have overwintered in the greenhouse are so very tiny, they are too small to plant out. They are going to stay where they are for a while. (The poppies didn't make it.)
    I sowed some poppies earlier this month and they are currently in the unheated glass-roofed lean to which is warmer than the greenhouse. (The greenhouse is still getting sub zero temperatures at night.)

  • REMF33REMF33 Posts: 731
    edited February 2022
    I didn't think to looks at the seed packets (Doh) but most of them don't give advice on autumn sowing and subsequent growing on. However my Masterpiece Green Longpod are from Sarah Raven and she says 'direct sow/plant out' from March-April. So that's fairly explicit. I assume she knows what she's doing.
    I am also growing Masterpiece Longpod. She says the same for that. (Damn! Now I've gone on her site, I am being tempted by flowers...)

    This was all experimental with a proviso that if they didn't work out, I could still sow things in spring, but having nurtured (albeit in a very hands off way) these plants all winter, I find myself invested in them!
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    I’m leaving mine all grown and straggly ,not potting on mid March is only a couple of weeks to wait .IMHO they’ll be fine .
  • SonnieBSonnieB Posts: 124
    I've got 2 peas planted, Broad Bean Sutton dwarf and Pea early douce providence.  They have been in My plastic greenhouse since early Feb.  Can I plant them outside in my raised bed or should I pot them on as they aren't big enough and it's still too cold .  Im based in Essex and would like to free up some space if I can

    Pea early douce providence


    Broad Bean Sutton dwarf 



    Many thanks


  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I think they would disappear very quickly if you planted them out @SonnieB. They're tiny.
    I would pot them on and wait until the weather and temps are more suitable for them to have a chance of thriving.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • SonnieBSonnieB Posts: 124
    edited March 2022
    Thanks @Fairygirl I'll do that.   I can't wait for things to warm up properly 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Unfortunately, patience is the hardest thing to cultivate in a garden  ;)
    There's nothing to gain by rushing things out into the ground, even if you have plenty of plants. If they're a bit bigger and sturdier, they'll grow on much better, and it's less stressful for you too  :)
    It'll be end of April and into May before I can put anything out [hardy annuals] and that would mainly be in pots, not the ground, because the soil would be too cold. You learn early on up here that trying to do it earlier ends in failure. It'll be earlier for putting plants out where you are  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • SonnieBSonnieB Posts: 124
     I'm starting to see this.  I usually buy plants, but this year have decided to plant everything from seed.  I guess I will have to learn to be more patient  (big sigh) 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Don't worry too much. Your plants look good and healthy, and it won't be long before they're growing away, but at the moment they're just tiny wee babies - some are only just germinated. Another month will see a big difference  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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