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Environment agency sleeping on the job?

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  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    Last Wednesday, 265 MPs voted with the government to reject an attempt by the House of Lords to toughen up the approach to the discharge of sewage

    Tory MPs defend votes after uproar over sewage proposals - BBC News

    Green peer Jenny Jones argued that the government's amendment did not include proper timetables or targets for companies to reduce sewage discharge.
    "This will come to haunt MPs," she said, and warned that the UK risked returning to "the 1970s version of ourselves as the dirty man of Europe".
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited January 2022
    I don't the the EA were ever awake to start with.
  • LunarSeaLunarSea Posts: 1,923
    Fairygirl said:

    The great Feargal Sharkey has been on TV and radio frequently over the last six months or so- he's very knowledgeable and articulate on the subject. 
    I'd vote for him any time. 


    Oh yes. This is some data I got from his Twitter feed re: discharges by company during 2020. Unfortunately we're with United Utilities.

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Fairygirl said:

    The great Feargal Sharkey has been on TV and radio frequently over the last six months or so- he's very knowledgeable and articulate on the subject. 
    I'd vote for him any time. 


    Oh yes. This is some data I got from his Twitter feed re: discharges by company during 2020. Unfortunately we're with United Utilities.

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    just so long as their CEOs and shareholders are well paid, that's all they care about.
    Devon.
  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601
    And they do get well paid. So do the regulatory authorities. My water company has announced that it intends to cut most of its raw discharges by a magnificent 50% by 2050. What more could one ask?
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    I don't know what the actual reason is for the sewage discharge.  


    It is (genuinely) impossible to design any fluid network to have infinitely expandable capacity - it will always be able to carry only a finite amount of water (with and without lumps). Currently, the overflow when the system is overwhelmed is always into a watercourse. As climate change gets worse and rainfall becomes more intense, and also as the population increases and more stuff is going down the drains, the ability of the sewage network to cope with the extremes is becoming worse. Therefore the overflows happen more often.

    The system is old and, basically, the pipes are too small. The water companies don't want to spend money on wholesale upgrades, so they do it piecemeal as and when there's a catastrophic failure and every failure introduces waste into the watercourses. The obvious temporary solution would be to employ a different overflow arrangement and in the long term to vastly upgrade the network. But that brings us back to the points made by others that these are private companies who are not minded to invest current profits into future benefits.

    This is one of the issues the CCC are talking about when they say we are woefully unprepared for the climate change that is already happening, let alone the next 20 or 30 years when it will keep getting worse. Government says its climate change curbs inadequate - BBC News 
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