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No one ever comes to their own conclusions without input. There is no conclusion without input. The input is what drives the conclusion. If the input is biased, so potentially is the conclusion.
ive lived in america and i really missed the bbc!!you dont know what you've got till it's gone. my sister lives there and loves gardeners world.she has brit box I think so can get a lot of programmes she couldn't before.i hate adverts!!!drive me mad.
I think the bbc is brilliant value for money. Compare it to the cost of bt , sky etc. Sadly this current bunch of idiots posing as a government have an agenda to get rid of intelligent commentary on their appalling behaviour and lack of ability. I would add that i like to listen to absolute radio sometimes but the adverts always drive me back to bbc radio before too long.
option One: have a licence and option Two: be subscription based like Netflix?
Isn’t a licence essentially the same as a subscription? It might have been better to phrase the second option as funded by advertising.
However as TV advertising revenue is in sharp decline I imagine what will happen in the future is the BBC charging internet service providers a very hefty premium for the use of their catalogue. Those fees will then be passed on to consumers who’ll have to pay a lot more for broadband services and on January 1st 2032 when the broadband renewal email arrives, people will be saying ‘I wish we could return to having a licence’.
I’ll add here that I have never had a Sky subscription or similar so I do not have a strong idea of how they work but it would be a right mess if we had separate subscriptions for drama, comedy, news and current affairs, documentaries, chat shows, children’s TV, popular music radio, classical music radio, talk radio, Bitesize, World Service, online journalism and maybe more.
I would much rather pay £13 a month and be done with it. Better to have a news organisation I trust and which will robustly challenge those in power as it is independently funded rather than one under the governance of the likes of Murdoch, Maxwell, Berlusconi and Tapie - what a fine bunch of upstanding gents! Or are we to rely on the internet for our news where the perversely flaky can corrupt the minds of the gullible?
I remember during the Irish Troubles a very irate man remonstrating with a BBC cameraman. “You lying BBC,” he frothed, “you’re filming things that aren’t happening.”
The difference between the licence fee and a Netflix subscription, is that I can choose. If I only required a Licence to watch BBC, I’d consider it. I object to having to buy a licence to legally watch non BBC, free to air channels. Especially when I see some of the rubbish the BBC spend their ring fenced money on. If they were a bit more accountable to the public, and were forced to try and justify some of the wastage of money, it could be a lot better. Once, working for the BBC was seen as a prestigious job. If they got rid of some of their overpaid presenters, there would be queues of talented alternatives happy to take on those roles for a reasonable salary, instead of silly money that serves as an insult to those in more responsible professions who get paid a fraction of that.
Completely agree with ergates above. The license fee isn't just for the BBC which is the problem. If it was then I wouldn't argue that it's pretty good value but it's the fact that you are forced to pay for something you might not wish to watch, that I think is the problem.
Personally I very rarely watch the beeb. I have absolutely no interest in strictly or any programme with "celebrity" in the title and it's annoying that when these programmes are on all the coverage seems to be about this. I see very little content for the younger demographic in their output and I think this is their biggest problem because with streaming services becoming more prevalent, the people who will fund the future will already have moved away from them if a subscription comes in.
The BBC are entirely capable of misrepresenting people in order to create a better story for their news programmes. I've direct experience of them doing it. Journalists have their own bias and agenda, even those working for the beeb.
The question is whether the alternative would be better or worse.
It has its flaws, it is probably financially less efficient than it could be, it has blind spots and makes serious mistakes (Jimmy Saville, Martin Bashir).
That doesn't mean I think we should bin it. It's not the only institution that I've felt that way about in the last decade or so. I prefer to try to make it better than to walk away and accept whatever comes next
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“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
I don't want to pay and I don't. And I think that it is seriously unfair that I can't watch other live TV even if it is completely unrelated to BBC. But I can live without it. Youtube and Netflix are more than enough.
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Sadly this current bunch of idiots posing as a government have an agenda to get rid of intelligent commentary on their appalling behaviour and lack of ability.
I would add that i like to listen to absolute radio sometimes but the adverts always drive me back to bbc radio before too long.
option One: have a licence
and
option Two: be subscription based like Netflix?
Isn’t a licence essentially the same as a subscription? It might have been better to phrase the second option as funded by advertising.
However as TV advertising revenue is in sharp decline I imagine what will happen in the future is the BBC charging internet service providers a very hefty premium for the use of their catalogue. Those fees will then be passed on to consumers who’ll have to pay a lot more for broadband services and on January 1st 2032 when the broadband renewal email arrives, people will be saying ‘I wish we could return to having a licence’.
I’ll add here that I have never had a Sky subscription or similar so I do not have a strong idea of how they work but it would be a right mess if we had separate subscriptions for drama, comedy, news and current affairs, documentaries, chat shows, children’s TV, popular music radio, classical music radio, talk radio, Bitesize, World Service, online journalism and maybe more.
I remember during the Irish Troubles a very irate man remonstrating with a BBC cameraman. “You lying BBC,” he frothed, “you’re filming things that aren’t happening.”
I object to having to buy a licence to legally watch non BBC, free to air channels. Especially when I see some of the rubbish the BBC spend their ring fenced money on. If they were a bit more accountable to the public, and were forced to try and justify some of the wastage of money, it could be a lot better.
Once, working for the BBC was seen as a prestigious job. If they got rid of some of their overpaid presenters, there would be queues of talented alternatives happy to take on those roles for a reasonable salary, instead of silly money that serves as an insult to those in more responsible professions who get paid a fraction of that.
Personally I very rarely watch the beeb. I have absolutely no interest in strictly or any programme with "celebrity" in the title and it's annoying that when these programmes are on all the coverage seems to be about this. I see very little content for the younger demographic in their output and I think this is their biggest problem because with streaming services becoming more prevalent, the people who will fund the future will already have moved away from them if a subscription comes in.
The question is whether the alternative would be better or worse.
It has its flaws, it is probably financially less efficient than it could be, it has blind spots and makes serious mistakes (Jimmy Saville, Martin Bashir).
That doesn't mean I think we should bin it. It's not the only institution that I've felt that way about in the last decade or so. I prefer to try to make it better than to walk away and accept whatever comes next
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
Is this Gardening forum funded by TV licence payers ?
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