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  • UffUff Posts: 3,199
    There are some interesting answers here. I didn't know that it was a charitable institution. I'll read the links later, thank you.
    SW SCOTLAND but born in Derbyshire
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Uff said:
    There are some interesting answers here. I didn't know that it was a charitable institution. I'll read the links later, thank you.
    So is Eton
    Devon.
  • UffUff Posts: 3,199
    Thanks for the information Fire, impressive. The organisation has gone up in my estimation. 
    SW SCOTLAND but born in Derbyshire
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    It really has been a huge labour of love.
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    An early, and soon corrected, entry on the singer Jim Morrison. “Interestingly, while Jim Morrison was born in a van, Van Morrison was born in a gym.” It made me smile.

    Hats off to you, @Fire, for your altruism.
    Rutland, England
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    It's not really altruism, @BenCotto - I just like being part of communities. It gives me a kick.
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    As an aside, Wikimedia are extremely careful with their hiring process, most software engineer jobs for example have maybe 4 stages on average, Wikimedia have around 8. They hire worldwide to get the best talent so they are quite an international team, and the internal culture is that everyone involved is very passionate about the mission to provide free access to information. It’s a laudable cause in my opinion. 
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    When my daughter was in Uni, she was told that they were not to quote wiki in any work as it " was unreliable for its factual accuracy " ,ditto The Hitler loving Daily Hate Mail. 
    Why might that be ?
    Devon.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I tend to think of WP as a constant work in progress by thousands of minds - ever changing, the product of millions of hours of discussion and reading. It is not designed to be static or present a kind of 'universal truth'. Good articles will offer a selection of citations and sources so that readers can go and explore further. In many ways, this can be WP's best asset - offering a collection of places so you can carry on researching. We can see it as a beginning - a stepping off place, not of a final 'answer'. It's more like AI (with real people) constantly learning, changing and developing.

    WP principles are for articles to present a neutral point of view (not bias), that details can be verifiable (have strong sources) and without conflict of interest. These are the aims around which discussion (and argument) circle.

    So, it can be a good starting place for students to start an investigation, but it should be no lazy short cut for doing deeper research. Because WP is so ubiquitous, and students have smart phones, it must drive tutors crazy that people just cut and paste from the WP articles. With any luck, the articles will prompt a mass of questions and start the investigation.

    In my view, one of WP's biggest problems is that most readers don't know what it is, how it works, why it was concieved or who writes it. In my experience (of talking about it a lot) few people ever seem to ask. 

    The other problem is that the various WPs, in all their languages, are now so vast, and the readership is so much of the world, that it's virtually impossible to evaluate. It's constantly changing, like the web itself.

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    Having been involved with both GW and WP for some years, I think there are lots of parallels (I've noted this on other threads). They are about sharing ideas and education. Most of the people involved get excited about helping people out and give a lot of their personal time to help. There's an element of learning and generosity it in. There is a strong community behind it. It's very widely read, 'free' and accessible.

    You could find ten gardening books that will give ten different approaches to growing vegetables. You could argue about it endlessly, or you could find common ground to agree on. Curiosity and good questions are always going to be helpful.
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