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  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    The tree is locally grown and will be shredded and composted. I was a little worried about the environmental impact but I am doing all I can to reduce it and as others have said cut flowers are equally ā€œ harmfulā€ and I wouldn’t be without them.Ā 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited November 2021
    There are lots of things that some folk would consider ā€˜waste’ … I know someone who has no time for novels or poetry and considers that using paper and ink for such books is a waste of resources … I consider them an essential part of human life …

    Gardening in Central NorfolkĀ on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • A plant grows … it dies … it decomposes into the soil … where’s the waste?Ā 
    I get what you are saying but again people look at everything with a fine toothed comb nowadays andĀ I think in this context it would be all the energy that goes into the plants production/transportation. If they were just popping up naturally and you went and cut your own, they would be as green as you could get but they are a commercial product, many are simply dumped after Christmas and it's important they are responsibly recycled.

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    People who don't recycle or consider the environmental impact of what they buy will not think twice about a real or a plastic tree for Xmas.

    Those of us who do know that a real tree is environmentally better than a fake as, even if it does end up in landfill it will not be leaving microplastics in the ground and to the food chain for millennia and while it's growing it's absorbing CO2 and emitting oxygen.Ā  Ā As for ornamental plants being useless - ridiculous.Ā  They give pleasure to those who grow them or just look at them.Ā  They also provide habitat and shelter for insects and their nectar, pollen, seeds and berries - if the varieties are wisely chosen - provide food for a wide variety of insects and some birds and mammals.
    VendƩe - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited November 2021
    The energy that goes into its growth is the same as with any hardy plant … ie ā€˜not a lot’ … it’s a pretty low input crop … not a hothouse plant … and while it’s growing it’s contributing to carbon storage etc Ā and if, as many folk do, you buy from a local farmer or smallholder you’re not using a lot of energy to fetch it and you’re contributing to the livelihood of someone who’s job is planting and growing trees.Ā 



    Gardening in Central NorfolkĀ on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I'm not sure about England but most councils in Wales offer a tree recycling service and chip the trees up for mulch in parks and places like that.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    My local council tip recycles Christmas trees
  • In Norfolk you can take real or fake trees to the recycling centres, or for a fee you can arrange for this company to collect themĀ 

    https://www.christmastreecollectionservice.co.uk/Ā 

    They seem to cover quite a lot of areas … has anyone used them?

    Gardening in Central NorfolkĀ on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • ManderMander Posts: 349
    I've had the same two fake trees for years. One is an aluminium job that my grandparents bought in the 50s, the other a small cheap IKEA thing. I'm not very picky about such things so I don't mind that the cheap one looks cheap as it's mainly just a vehicle for my collection of glass ornaments.

    Real trees make me sneeze so I avoid them, but I do like to have fresh greenery. I will probably go down to the local woodland next week and cut a bit of ivy and dogwood to make some kind of decorative garland to put by the fireplace.Ā 
  • But you don't have to have a "fir" tree to have at Christmas.
    We have had over many years different plants that we decorated and then planted them outside.
    We still have these great trees/shrubs in our garden after many decades.
    The most brilliant one has been Trachycarpus fortunei. When small as the Christmas tree we decorated it with very fragile "gold" decorations. It did look brilliant and then was planted out. Today it is a magnficent palm with a very strong trunk and over 10 metres tall.
    When the wind blows (as it does a lot!) the movement of the palm leaves are wonderful.
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