Hi Fairygirl., ah OK so i learnt something about Camelias there, luckily the bed i planted them in is light shade with only a little sun later. I like the idea of the screen actually and the neighbour can get his hedge trimmer in behind. I want some really lovely colour and impact but as its so small there i think a climber will be best, thank you
Camellias are basically woodland shrubs, so some dappled shade is best for them. Nice soil with plenty of organic matter is ideal. Lots of clematis would be fine there, especially those which like a drier soil, like the alpinas. Your screen could be very simple, or it could be similar to your fence and link into that.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Hi All I still haven't planted this hedge area i want to do, so after all the ideas(Thank you) To confirm the area gets morning sun along there then goes to light shade as the sun moves behind the neighbours Thuja? hedge. I want this area filled out with bushy evergreens/ hedge effect I am thinking Camelias - Sesanqua - grows faster i think? our escalonia...? main thing is to get dense effect and height. I also saw spindle bush a site but not sure what it looks like or if its would work in that mostly shaded spot. Ergates did you take a photo of your camellia hedge ?
Sorry, but I really don't understand this. If the site gets morning sun, Camellias won't be happy unless you never get spring frosts, and if you never get them, I'd assume you must live in a much milder area altogether. If you're in the south west of England for example, that might be the case. Morning sun after a frost just doesn't suit them - as I said last year, and hot sun during the day bleaches them. They need dappled or semi shade [ or even more shade] and moisture, in order to thrive successfully.
Escallonias prefer sun. Euonymous alatus [spindle tree] might be ok, but the moisture issue because of that hedge will be a factor.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Oh dear I am really struggling aren't I . Thanks again Fairygirl. Back to the drawing board i think. I don't really want to put climbers in on some structure, id like tall, dense bushes.
Whatever you plant, you have to consider the maintenance of the existing hedge. It will keep growing 'out', albeit fairly slowly, but if it isn't trimmed, it'll encroach on anything else that's planted. If you plant another hedge, whether it's hornbeam, escallonia, eleagnus, or anything else, the two hedges will grow together, which might be a solution of sorts, but it seems a bit of a waste of the space.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
The neighbour who owns the hedge trims it both sides on the boundary as I don't want it. Totally understand what you are saying regards 2 hedges, I guess what Ia m trying to achieve is not really a full hedge merging with his, but a dense border of shrubs so it looks nice our side. I really just want ideas on what to plant to achieve that giving the conditions they will grow in and the border size.
There isn't a lot of room though. The neighbour would need enough room to access and trim the hedge. Even if they're slim, and handy with their shears/hedgetrimmer, you'd need a gap of at least two feet to get in there. Doesn't leave much room for shrubs, unless you don't mind them hanging over the edge of the drive. Otherwise, they'd constantly need trimmed to keep them tidy and in place, which isn't ideal, and slightly defeats the purpose of having shrubs rather than a tight hedge Cotoneaster is about the only thing I can think of which would be ok, but there's only a few which have more vertical growth, and are evergreen. I think it would look odd though, and would be best with a support of some kind - even trellis.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Have you tried digging this border deeply .I wonder if you can go down a spades depth without damaging the roots of neighbour's conifers. This is the best way to find out the condition of the soil, how dry it is and it there is enough depth of soil for what you would ideally like to do.
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Hi sorry just reread thread and it looks like you can dig down 3ft plus. Any sort of screen i. e more fencing will stop the light to the conifers and they will go brown on the neighbours side. There will be no need for your neighbour to cut them back anymore because they won't recover .If you remove fence in future you could be looking at the brown side. Euonymous emerald and Gold might be worth a try but there is not enough room for a shrubbery. Again, you may be looking at brown conifers if your plants stop the light .The shrubs that you have discussed will all need more room than you have. You may have to consider root pruning the conifers in the future if roots are heading towards your drive/path .If the conifers are trimmed this should help to slow the roots .Hard pruning can also result in die back,
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I like the idea of the screen actually and the neighbour can get his hedge trimmer in behind. I want some really lovely colour and impact but as its so small there i think a climber will be best, thank you
Lots of clematis would be fine there, especially those which like a drier soil, like the alpinas. Your screen could be very simple, or it could be similar to your fence and link into that.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I still haven't planted this hedge area
I am thinking Camelias - Sesanqua - grows faster i think? our escalonia...? main thing is to get dense effect and height.
I also saw spindle bush a site but not sure what it looks like or if its would work in that mostly shaded spot.
Ergates did you take a photo of your camellia hedge
If the site gets morning sun, Camellias won't be happy unless you never get spring frosts, and if you never get them, I'd assume you must live in a much milder area altogether. If you're in the south west of England for example, that might be the case.
Morning sun after a frost just doesn't suit them - as I said last year, and hot sun during the day bleaches them. They need dappled or semi shade [ or even more shade] and moisture, in order to thrive successfully.
Escallonias prefer sun.
Euonymous alatus [spindle tree] might be ok, but the moisture issue because of that hedge will be a factor.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
If you plant another hedge, whether it's hornbeam, escallonia, eleagnus, or anything else, the two hedges will grow together, which might be a solution of sorts, but it seems a bit of a waste of the space.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Doesn't leave much room for shrubs, unless you don't mind them hanging over the edge of the drive. Otherwise, they'd constantly need trimmed to keep them tidy and in place, which isn't ideal, and slightly defeats the purpose of having shrubs rather than a tight hedge
Cotoneaster is about the only thing I can think of which would be ok, but there's only a few which have more vertical growth, and are evergreen. I think it would look odd though, and would be best with a support of some kind - even trellis.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...