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Saucer or not?

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  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Oleanders and fuschias don't like standing in wet,most aren't even winter hardy even where I live in the mildest SE corner. They are tucked up in a green house
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Even hardy fuchsias wouldn't like it @Nanny Beach.
    I think there's a misconception about what a 'wet area' is!  ;)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    No idea what @bede is talking about.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I've no experience of Oleanders because they simply wouldn't survive here other than indoors, but I can't see how you could leave them in water when they're basically Med. plants which need good drainage. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited October 2021
    There’s a huge difference between using pot saucers in dry spells in the summer to maintain a level of moisture in the compost,  and constantly wet soil in the cold of winter which will cause even hardy fuschsia roots to rot. 

    Oleanders are not winter-hardy in most of the uk and need overwintering in a frostfree conservatory or greenhouse. Whilst they need plenty of water
    they need a free-draining  growing medium so that their roots don’t become waterlogged. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    It comes back to what I said earlier- the only plants that are happy sitting in water are pond plants. Even bog plants need drainage  :)
    That was my understanding of Oleanders @Dovefromabove. I was under the impression they're not hardy at all, and certainly couldn't stay outdoors in winter. 

    I just hope @torpor-cupfuls.0r can extract the right info for her plants from this thread. I'm sure she can  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    I’m in SW France and I have an Oleander planted in a bed next to the house so it’s sheltered. It survived minus 7 last winter.

    I remove plant saucers in winter, think I’ll try them upside down, sounds a good idea.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    They obviously breed 'em tough down your way @Busy-Lizzie ... I've never known one survive an English winter outside.  A friend who was head gardener at a stately home cared for some huge ones, and wheeled them all into the orangery at the end of September  :) 
    That being said, our huge canna survived last winter outside on our terrace, albeit in the most sheltered corner and protected as well as possible ... but it's not something I'd recommend ... there's just nowhere else for it, now that it lives in a big dustbin! 😂

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    It might be ok in areas that don't get frost/ice for any length of time, but leaving pots of wet soil on a hard surface, rather than off the ground on feet,  is never a good idea. You have to be very careful if you do that.
    Wet then a freeze, damages the pots too, but the potential damage to any roots showing through is the main problem. The vast majority of my pots are on gravel, and the ones on paving are raised. 
    Probably fine for the OP as she's stated they get very little frost there. Not so good in cold, wet areas  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • floraliesfloralies Posts: 2,718
    I have Oleanders planted in the clay soil here, wet in winter and bone dry in summer. I don't give them much attention only to prune out old wood. I thought I had lost them a few years ago in a very harsh winter but I just took off the dead growth and lost a year of flowers but after that they were fine.
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