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Neutralising effect of lime on Roundup on beds?

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Kardemom said:
    I worry about the health of the soil after such chemicals are used. The micro biome etc. I would wait a week and add a good layer of compost to build the soil health. Personally, I think the 'gardener' should be sprayed with round up. Where on earth did he get his ideas from I wonder. 
    roundup is neutralised on contact with soil.
    As for your suggestion that "the 'gardener' should be sprayed with round up."  I'd say that speaks volumes about YOU.
    Devon.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    edited October 2021
    Glyphosate may well become inert on contact with the soil but it does filter thru soils and into water courses where it does affect aquatic plants and, presumably, the aquatic creatures that feed on them and the cattle, pigs, sheep, horses and other land animals that drink from them.

    That "gardener" should definitely be sacked and possibly not paid for damaging the garden rather than improving it.  He also needs some re-education and his tools confiscated till he learns how to use them.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
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  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    I've read up quite a bit on this, and I believe the surfactants in Roundup (that help the glyphosate bind to and enter the leaf) are much more damaging than the glyphosate itself. Those surfactants are probably similar to the ones in insecticidal soap sprays marketed as "kind to the environment".
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    That said I'm not a fan of spraying either unless absolutely necessary.
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • Hello all, many thanks for the replies

    The 'gardener' was using a spray but I'm not certain it was Roundup, that was a guess on my part. My concern is that something nastier has been used. I planted a lot of tulip bulbs in my neighbour's garden last autumn - almost none of them came up and those that did were stunted (photo, sorry it's sideways for some reason). He wasn't spraying during the winter months which makes me think the soil has been poisoned somehow. I know it's extremely difficult to test it without laboratory equipment, I'm hoping lots of new compost will alleviate the situation but I'm not sure. I'd sown loads of annuals back in April and almost none of those appeared either...
    I am certainly going to prune the roses properly so there are clean cuts, they are a ragged mess at the moment.  
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I remember an experiment in "pruning" roses. Some were done "properly" some were just cut to a flat top, and some were cut with a hedge trimmer and they all seemed to bounce back perfectly well
    Devon.
  • SkandiSkandi Posts: 1,723
    It doesn't sound like roundup was used, you can spray roundup and plant new seeds/plants as soon as it is dry. It's used massively in no-till agriculture where the wait time is around 3 days. It sounds like something with a residual action was used, in which case extra compost, time and a new gardener should do the trick.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Tulips need quite specific conditions in the UK to do well @Helen Bang, so it may simply have been down to that. Many don't reliably return either, apart from the species ones.
    If they were planted in conditions that were too warm, that can also be a problem, as the tulip virus is present until soil conditions are cold enough to get rid of it.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • My tulips did fabulously well so it was the neighbour’s soil not the conditions / we’re in central Scotland so it certainly wasn’t too warm! They were new bulbs too   Thanks for commenting 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Ah - didn't realise you weren't too far away from me  ;)

    No - usually it's no problem planting tulips in September here, although this year has certainly been different  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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