Building Regulations first came into force in the UK in 1964. A huge proportion of the homes in the UK were built before that date.
As for farming on the clay lands of Suffolk … you obviously don’t have the foggiest about that either. My family and their friends have been doing it for generations.
I give up with you … you obviously think that you know everything … that’s of no concern to me, but when you give folk the wrong advice and refuse to even countenance the possibility that you might be mistaken that is a crying shame for the enquirer and makes you look ridiculous.
Doesnt it occur to you that if all the experienced gardeners are saying something different then you just might be the one who is wrong … remember the indulgent mother who boasted that her son was the only soldier marching in step?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
'Some sand' That's useful - if it's the stuff for making concrete I give up too. Never seen so much tunnel vision in my life. I must be imagining the solid clay I've gardened on all my life too. That stuff that's in single figures from now onwards, and doesn't warm up, or dry out, until May...
@LornaP - keep trying with your cuttings to increase the stock - many salvias don't last long, so it's always worth it, and some won't make it through winters, depending on where you live. You should be able to revive that one though, with the info given by @Buttercupdays yesterday. They can be divided [I think I said that earlier too] but it can be trickier, so cuttings are usually the best method.
Lots of people here grow salvias, so don't be frightened to ask for info on the best way of doing it. They'll need warmth and light, so a garage is rarely suitable. It won't have been mice that'll have eaten them though, more likely they've rotted, or dried out.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
> Building Regulations first came into force in the UK in 1964. A huge proportion of the homes in the UK were built before that date.
Yes, but to sell those houses in the new markets, the sellers have to provide drainage that meets minimum requirements. If you bought your house in or after, say, the 70s, you are safe from digging a hole, putting in compost, and having water accumulating in it.
If a house built before is standing well, the land has good naturally drainage anyway. A foundation cannot stand steady in a bog. It SLIPS!
There are people who are like: "Grrrr... I must make up a fake scenario to counter that."
Kudos to your farming family. The fact that they are farming means the drainage is "handleable."
I have not said I know everything. I have learned things here. But I do know a thing or two and I have people in my life who are experts I can ask.
@LornaP 😊 I’ve grown S. Icing Sugar in this garden for ten years. It’s proved hardy here even through The Beast from the East a few years ago … the front garden is near the foot of a northfacing slope in a bit of a frost pocket but the salvia is in a sheltered westfacing bed near the house and that bed has improved freedraining loam. It’s a huge bushy plant now … over .5 x .5m in area … I never cut it back until I can see new growth in the spring and then I cut it back by half. It’s a picture in the late summer and always full of bees.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Though it doesn't account for those that are full of heavily compacted clay....
It's fine though - just dig a hole. Stick the plant in. Isn't that what you and I do - without any problem?
Using mockery is a form of false argument, a FALLACY.
That "heavily compacted clay" is a fake, made up thing. It is literally ILLEGAL to sell that house on that (imaginary, made up) land without providing drainage for it. That is even if they got planning permission to build a house on that land without providing drainage.
@Buttercupdays 😊 I wonder why generations of farmers incorporated ton after ton of farmyard manure and lime into the soil for hundreds of years … if only they’d had advice from experts … all that hard work for no reason. They even developed their own breed of heavy horse to work the land as the feathered legs Shires and Percherons got clogged up and weighed down with sticky clay … hence the clean feather-free fetlocks of the Suffolk Punch.
And you’d think consulting an architect would reveal that the old timber-framed houses of East Anglia frequently don’t have ‘foundations’
and yet homes built in this way continue to be bought and sold in the 21st century. I grew up in one … I didn’t know it wasn’t permitted. Lots of people I know still live in them. I’m surprised it’s allowed. I suspect Mr Gove will soon put a stop to it once he finds out they don’t conform to Building Regs. 😉 My ex was a builder specialising in restoring just such historic homes … should that have been allowed I wonder? 🤔
Theres so much that I didn’t know … thank goodness someone has put us right 😮💨
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Not sure what foundations ours has! A mole has manged to push up the soil in the crack between the foot of what was once a barn, now part of the house, and a large heavy stone paving flag...
There are a couple of trees planted near the house and rather than worry about them undermining foundations, I am thankful for them holding the soil bank together
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
That's useful - if it's the stuff for making concrete
I give up too. Never seen so much tunnel vision in my life. I must be imagining the solid clay I've gardened on all my life too. That stuff that's in single figures from now onwards, and doesn't warm up, or dry out, until May...
@LornaP - keep trying with your cuttings to increase the stock - many salvias don't last long, so it's always worth it, and some won't make it through winters, depending on where you live. You should be able to revive that one though, with the info given by @Buttercupdays yesterday. They can be divided [I think I said that earlier too] but it can be trickier, so cuttings are usually the best method.
Lots of people here grow salvias, so don't be frightened to ask for info on the best way of doing it. They'll need warmth and light, so a garage is rarely suitable. It won't have been mice that'll have eaten them though, more likely they've rotted, or dried out.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Yes, but to sell those houses in the new markets, the sellers have to provide drainage that meets minimum requirements. If you bought your house in or after, say, the 70s, you are safe from digging a hole, putting in compost, and having water accumulating in it.
If a house built before is standing well, the land has good naturally drainage anyway. A foundation cannot stand steady in a bog. It SLIPS!
There are people who are like: "Grrrr... I must make up a fake scenario to counter that."
Kudos to your farming family. The fact that they are farming means the drainage is "handleable."
I have not said I know everything. I have learned things here. But I do know a thing or two and I have people in my life who are experts I can ask.
@LornaP 😊 I’ve grown S. Icing Sugar in this garden for ten years. It’s proved hardy here even through The Beast from the East a few years ago … the front garden is near the foot of a northfacing slope in a bit of a frost pocket but the salvia is in a sheltered westfacing bed near the house and that bed has improved freedraining loam. It’s a huge bushy plant now … over .5 x .5m in area … I never cut it back until I can see new growth in the spring and then I cut it back by half. It’s a picture in the late summer and always full of bees.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
That "heavily compacted clay" is a fake, made up thing. It is literally ILLEGAL to sell that house on that (imaginary, made up) land without providing drainage for it. That is even if they got planning permission to build a house on that land without providing drainage.
We're all delusional - obviously
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Theres so much that I didn’t know … thank goodness someone has put us right 😮💨
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.