Yes - they don't appreciate being dry @KeenOnGreen. They often grow on top of rocks and other slightly inhospitable places up here [like the edges of burns ] because they get enough rain. Moorland and lower slopes of hills are perfect for them.
The dark Elders [Sambucus] are lovely. That's what I was thinking of in my earlier post. There's also a nice golden one - Sutherland Gold. Nice and bright for a slightly shadier spot
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Yes Sambucus is worth considering, I am coming around to them. Not very attractive in winter though are they? Coppice-ability is a big upside though. I see some Rowans doing quite well in my area, like the ones on my street in an apparently inhospitable planting strip along a block of flats, but I do see an awful lot reacting badly to drought stress and looking pretty brown and haggard. Same issue puts me off Amelanchier. I did have a little Amelanchier but it started looking tired past July.
"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour".
Young trees can take a number of years to settle and perform well, so common issues tend to be early leaf drop, sometimes looking very weak and spindly. Gleditsias are tough trees and chosen more and more as street trees. Gleditsia Triacanthos 'Ruby Lace' and 'Sunburst' are good trees that form open canopy and start off as quite slow growing. Once settled in, can grow faster, but they do well with pruning so a good all-rounder even for a small garden.
I wonder if you could just amend an area, to make it more viable for a Rowan or Amelanchier? A bit like doing a bog garden - bit of liner, but far more holes, with loads of bark, soil, leaf mould, manure etc. A heftier compost too. Maybe those ones you're seeing just have more moisture retentive soil?
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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The dark Elders [Sambucus] are lovely. That's what I was thinking of in my earlier post.
There's also a nice golden one - Sutherland Gold. Nice and bright for a slightly shadier spot
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
A bit like doing a bog garden - bit of liner, but far more holes, with loads of bark, soil, leaf mould, manure etc. A heftier compost too.
Maybe those ones you're seeing just have more moisture retentive soil?
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...