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Spider Mites

After reading someone else's question about possible spider mites, I've realised what I thought were harmless soil mites in my MPC are actually spider mites. :( The situation is right now I have 3 bags of MPC in my garage that are infested, and the mites are crawling around over the garage - urghhh! I've used the compost for some honesty seedlings - some of which have visible mite damage (now that I know what it looks like!). I've also used it for foxglove seedlings that all look healthy. Both sets of seedlings have been outside for a few days now, but were sown inside and I have had some compost in the conservatory in trays waiting for seeds for a couple of days, and now I've just found a bit of webbing on one of our houseplants that lives permanently in the conservatory (Monstera deliciosa if that's relevant). I sowed viola seeds about an hour ago.

So how would you recommend I tackle the situation, please?
* Ditch the compost in the garage? How should I dispose?
* Will the mites left in the garage die off naturally or will I need to do something to tackle them?
* Ditch the seedlings with obvious mite damage? What about the healthy looking ones?
* Ditch the newly sown compost?
* What should I do about the Monstera?

Please tell me I can get on top of this! I feel a bit sick about the whole thing. It doesn't help that we had a bird mite infestation in the house last summer from a pigeons nest in the roof, so it's stirring up last year's mite trauma too.  :s
Sussex coast
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  • Oh and I also have some baby lettuces outside. No sign of damage, but I can see some fine webbing between pots. :(

    I should also say that the garage is at the end of the garden, not attached to the house, in case that's relevant.
    Sussex coast
  • And another thing!  :D Sorry, the cogs were just whirring while I was moving the compost to an isolated spot. I bought the 3 bags of compost at the same time. When I opened the first, there was lots of what I thought was white mold. I opened the other to check and they were the same. I was about to complain to Wickes, but courtesy of google, I determined it was harmless and I could just go ahead and use the compost. The white strands did quite quickly disappear once the bags were opened as was suggested in what I'd read. Now I'm wondering, could they have been mite webs rather than mold? 

    Now that I think further and look at the date of delivery of the compost...the honesty wasn't originally grown in that compost. :/ I thought I'd had it longer than I have. I went away for a few days in the middle of last month and came back and some of the honesty had light patches on the leaves - I assumed at the time it was a watering issue due to me probably watering them too much before I went away. I removed the unhealthy leaves and some of the plants look fine, some developed more unhealthy leaves. So timing wise, I'm now not sure that the recent compost was responsible, yet it's definitely been crawling with mites in the last few days. Sorry, I feel like I'm wittering now, but just trying to work everything out... 
    Sussex coast
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I haven't read all of your posts, but I can assure you that spider mites can not and do not live in compost.

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Oh blimey. :/ Well they're definitely mites and they've definitely caused webbing. Are there any others that do that?
    Sussex coast
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I'm no mite expert, so I don't really know.
    I've had infestations of 2-spot mite in the past which do make webs and damage plants, but the mites are not visible without magnification.
    I do see red spider mites in the summer that look like a red dot with legs hurrying along - I don't know if they're friend or foe.
    I often find spiders and webs in a bag of long-opened compost, but they're not plant eaters.
    Maybe your plants do have spider mites, but if so, they didn't come from the compost.

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Thanks, Pete, I appreciate your input. I'm even more confused now though.  :D The stuff I've read says 'just' visible to the naked eye. I have good close eyesight, and I can see mites without a problem. The compost is definitely crawling with them. I don't know if they are the harmless soil ones, and coincidentally I also have spider mites. I'm looking at my cucumber plant and thinking mites could be what's done for that (I've rather neglected it and it's in a pot that's too small for it, so had just put it down to that). Maybe my remaining tomatoes too. Though I did just find a big spider on one that could account for the webbing. :D Though webbing was created between trays of empty compost indoors last night... :/ 
    Sussex coast
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Armed with sellotape, I have a sample of a couple. I can take a look under microscope later if need be, but I can't access the room it's in at the moment. But here is a zoomed in phone pic.
    Sussex coast
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I think we'll have to hope that one of the bug experts on the forum can advise.
    Did these bugs (above) come from the plant or the compost?

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Hard to tell. Going to need a closer look. These things totally skeeve me. :(
    Sussex coast
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