I have a friendand neighbour with. Hopefully it is a disease that won't exist in 20 years time. It's so avoidable, as I understand it.
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I haven't had kids for similar reasons. Why on earth would you, if you can't offer a stable home and future, with parents in good health and good finance? It seems terrifically irresponsible to even consider it. I stand my decision.
It's amazing how many people just have kids without actually thinking about any of that sort of thing @Fire. Often couples have kids because that's what it's expected of them with no thought of how they will raise them. Part of me had a pang of regret but the older I have got and the more greedy and over crowded the world is, I'm so glad I've no children because this beautiful yet doomed world is in no state for the future.
@steveTu my comment was a 'tongue in cheek' reference to the WUM posting last night
If you Google WUM you do not get wind up merchant which I think you meant wrt the barbitol comment made. I don't think you mean the definition I saw first in the urban dictionary website.
I can't for the life of me see why anyone would bring a child into the world who you can't support emotionally, financially, with food, love and security. Why go out of your way to create so much suffering for a poor, helpess sod that didn't ask to be born? It boggles my mind.
Because some people have no control, they don’t even think of the consequences.
When my mum had me, many years ago, she was very young, she didn’t really understand about anything, but she said to her mum that as she’d got me and didn’t intend having another, what can she do so she wouldn’t get pregnant again, her mum slapped her round the face and told her that we’ll have none of that dirty talk in here!
She was always worried when I was small, rationing, no credits or help from the government, no family allowance, foot and mouth, anthrax, missiles, you name it, she was worried about it. Now half of them just have them for a fashion statement, my daughter, a childminder is booked for the next 3 years, and always fully booked, they book her as soon as they become pregnant, what is the point!
Anyway, back to social care.... lots about it on our local news, care home owners have all said the same thing, they probably won’t see any of the money, and it wouldn’t matter if they did, they cannot get staff. People have been waiting for 2 years for a place, up till then you have to cope on your own with dementia patients.
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The issue I see is despite the announcement this won't fix anything. As usual there's a lot of smoke &mirrors, the 86 K cap is only on care costs not "hotel " costs. The criteria for eligibility for council care is rising all the time. Me & my wife both worked in the NHS, not on high wages, we paid 6-9% of our modest pay into the pension scheme. It's not our fault that the money was not invested and that now current staff are paying for our pension. The same goes for state pension. As others have said we pay tax on our pensions. Just because the housing market has gone crazy and our property is currently "worth" over 4 times what we paid for it, does not make us rich. If one of us had to go into care, the other would be forced to sell, exactly what Bojo claimed he does not want. I have read in the past that a flat tax system with no exemptions or loopholes is the best way, I don't claim to understand why, but if true that seems to make sense to me.
We have "better" social care here, although everyone always complains it's not enough, people can only get home help once a day not twice.
And it's funded by tax with everyone paying around the same rate (it is technically a progressive scale but in reality not really) I only work part time as right now my OH would lose his disability benefit if I work more. and that would be a net loss for the household.
So as a part time worker in the lowest tax bracket with a wage of £12 per hour I take home £4.90p per hour. There is only a 4k allowance before you pay tax. our equivalent of NI is 8% my tax rate is 56%, VAT is 25% on EVERYTHING and every business pays it (there is a 5k turnover limit). To give an idea of how that works, for every £1 I sell in vegetables, 25p goes as VAT 45p goes in income taxes that leaves me with 30p if I buy electric the tax is about 60% so for every £1 I earn and spend on electric the government takes 88% for a loaf of bread the state takes 77%. Black market participation is estimated at 90%.. I wonder why.
I thought I already paid for social care through council tax so I was annoyed to read this headline about more tax to pay. CT has gone up 2-3% every year (social care precept) for the past few years and this year it was 8%.
I highly doubt that my CT bill will be reduced if NI is increased.
Is no one else paying for social care through their council tax? Haven't seen it mentioned in the thread.
Many of the comments so far remind me of the typical Daily Mail readers' mentality: Every thing is crap, it's someone else's fault everything is crap, not mine, and it's up to someone else to fix, it , not me, and it's up to someone else to pay for it, but not me.
Probably not mentioned @gondor because most people understand that the social care amount in council tax is vastly inadequate to cover the need now being addressed, and perhaps thought you were being deliberately obtuse … but here goes …
Of course some elements of social care are currently paid for via council tax. I used to work for a social services team employed by the local authority. Our work, and the care for vulnerable and disabled children and adults we assessed and worked with, are paid for by your council tax. It also has to cover the home care and residential care needed for the frail elderly who are no longer able to care for themselves. In years gone by this would often have been done informally for as long as they could by their daughters and grand daughters but nowadays they’re in employment full time until they themselves are retired.
The need for social care has risen exponentially in the last couple of generations.
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Part of me had a pang of regret but the older I have got and the more greedy and over crowded the world is, I'm so glad I've no children because this beautiful yet doomed world is in no state for the future.
When my mum had me, many years ago, she was very young, she didn’t really understand about anything, but she said to her mum that as she’d got me and didn’t intend having another, what can she do so she wouldn’t get pregnant again, her mum slapped her round the face and told her that we’ll have none of that dirty talk in here!
She was always worried when I was small, rationing, no credits or help from the government, no family allowance, foot and mouth, anthrax, missiles, you name it, she was worried about it.
Now half of them just have them for a fashion statement, my daughter, a childminder is booked for the next 3 years, and always fully booked, they book her as soon as they become pregnant, what is the point!
Anyway, back to social care.... lots about it on our local news, care home owners have all said the same thing, they probably won’t see any of the money, and it wouldn’t matter if they did, they cannot get staff.
People have been waiting for 2 years for a place, up till then you have to cope on your own with dementia patients.
I have read in the past that a flat tax system with no exemptions or loopholes is the best way, I don't claim to understand why, but if true that seems to make sense to me.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.