I think you're probably right. The Hagley I had never got direct rain, but the soil was usually not too dry. so somewhere whit some moisture and a little sun would probably suit it better
Billericay - Essex
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Personally - I hate Photinia, but it isn't my garden. The main reason for that is that they usually look dreadful here, as our climate doesn't suit them, but I'm not familiar with that one, so I can't really comment, and you may well have much more suitable conditions. I can understand that the clem is ok for @Pete.8 because, although he's in a drier part of the country, if it's in a north facing site, it won't dry out so readily, and the larger flowered types need a decent amount of water. It's one of those things that you might have to experiment with though. Loads of water, and plenty of mulching and it might be ok. I'd still be inclined to go for one of the types that don't mind a drier site.
Funnily enough, when I was out the other day, another shrub that came to mind that might suit is Genista - Broom. Common as muck, but would manage the conditions no problem. I grow the white one rather than the yellows. It would also serve as a support if you go for a clematis. I have a C. Miss Bateman which grows nearby and climbs through it
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I have decided to invest and take up the path and widen the bed, ithen i can plant more tress for privacy and let the climbers do there thing on the fence... No idea what to plant for a low maintenance bed with a view from the patio, so something thats looks good all year. I was thinking tom put a membrane down and plant through? any ideas very welcome.
You can have loads of bulbs and then some easy perennials, put in at the same time if possible as it's much easier. Hardy geraniums and bulbs are a classic, easy combination for many areas whether sunny or shady. Membrane can be useful in some situations, but it wouldn't work for the above suggestion. It's ok for shrubs, but you need to feed and water more, and by different methods [for feeding anyway] Have you got some info about the size, and the soil condition in the new bit, and also if it's shadier or sunnier ? That will affect the choices. Some things won't mind which, but some will perform better in one situation than the other.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Thanks again Fairygirl I am waiting to have the path up and new area mapped out then i can share photos. It will have morning sun on the fence area where the climbers currently are growing. Then all day sun in the rest mostly. I want to get this very big garden into a manageable situation, so i can have some life I think big shrubs and trees with some bulbs for all seasons, or perennials.? i want to match it if possible on the opposite bed, similar size, that has all day sun. Its got 3 40 year old espaliers on the back with rambling roses currently, it feels wrong to take the espaliers down and they gic=ve some privacy though gappy! The ramblers are well a pain but i can get then neat and controlled this season, as again seems silly to remove as they are lovely flowers just blimp thorny! and ramble everywhere! of course. again id like to put stuff in for fullness and less weeds, its overrun with self seeding stuff that I'm removing, but just keeps coming.
The border will need to be a decent size/depth if you want big shrubs and trees. There are certainly plenty of shrubs you can plant, but if you want to have a 'mirrored' effect with a border on the other side, you'll need to pick ones which will cope with different sun/shade levels. If you just want a similar look, rather than identical, for each side, that's easier Bulbs, and some perennials, mixed in with shrubs is good way of having a border which is fairly easy to maintain, and gives plenty of interest through the year. If you can pick shrubs that have different interest through the year - ie flowers, berries, leaf colour change, that all adds to it.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
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The Hagley I had never got direct rain, but the soil was usually not too dry. so somewhere whit some moisture and a little sun would probably suit it better
Billericay - Essex
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
The main reason for that is that they usually look dreadful here, as our climate doesn't suit them, but I'm not familiar with that one, so I can't really comment, and you may well have much more suitable conditions.
I can understand that the clem is ok for @Pete.8 because, although he's in a drier part of the country, if it's in a north facing site, it won't dry out so readily, and the larger flowered types need a decent amount of water. It's one of those things that you might have to experiment with though. Loads of water, and plenty of mulching and it might be ok. I'd still be inclined to go for one of the types that don't mind a drier site.
Funnily enough, when I was out the other day, another shrub that came to mind that might suit is Genista - Broom. Common as muck, but would manage the conditions no problem. I grow the white one rather than the yellows. It would also serve as a support if you go for a clematis. I have a C. Miss Bateman which grows nearby and climbs through it
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
No idea what to plant for a low maintenance bed with a view from the patio, so something thats looks good all year. I was thinking tom put a membrane down and plant through? any ideas very welcome.
Membrane can be useful in some situations, but it wouldn't work for the above suggestion. It's ok for shrubs, but you need to feed and water more, and by different methods [for feeding anyway]
Have you got some info about the size, and the soil condition in the new bit, and also if it's shadier or sunnier ? That will affect the choices. Some things won't mind which, but some will perform better in one situation than the other.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I am waiting to have the path up and new area mapped out then i can share photos.
It will have morning sun on the fence area where the climbers currently are growing. Then all day sun in the rest mostly.
I want to get this very big garden into a manageable situation, so i can have some life
I think big shrubs and trees with some bulbs for all seasons, or perennials.? i want to match it if possible on the opposite bed, similar size, that has all day sun. Its got 3 40 year old espaliers on the back with rambling roses currently, it feels wrong to take the espaliers down and they gic=ve some privacy though gappy!
The ramblers are well a pain but i can get then neat and controlled this season, as again seems silly to remove as they are lovely flowers just blimp thorny!
There are certainly plenty of shrubs you can plant, but if you want to have a 'mirrored' effect with a border on the other side, you'll need to pick ones which will cope with different sun/shade levels.
If you just want a similar look, rather than identical, for each side, that's easier
Bulbs, and some perennials, mixed in with shrubs is good way of having a border which is fairly easy to maintain, and gives plenty of interest through the year. If you can pick shrubs that have different interest through the year - ie flowers, berries, leaf colour change, that all adds to it.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...