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OwlbearOwlbear Posts: 49
Hello,

Just hoping to get some thoughts on a small mystery.

January last year we planted a few new roses, one of which was "Peter Pan". It is in direct sun for most of the morning and afternoon and is planted in clay soil. All of the other roses have grown and flowered both last year and this year, though I appreciate they're still getting established really.

However Peter Pan has been a bit odd. It came with 3 canes, and all 3 are still alive. However last year only 1 cane actually grew at all, the other two leafed up, but have not noticeably increased in length. On the one cane that did grow (which more than doubled in length) we got a reasonable lot of flowers last year, especially bearing in mind it had only been planted that year.

This year however, all three canes have leafed up again, the two that didn't grow at all last year are still not noticeably growing (still fully leafed up though), the one that did has grown again, but no flowers at all, not even buds, meanwhile some roses (including ones planted at the same time as this one) are on their second or third round of flowers coming. It is not to my inexperienced eye noticeably sickly, and isn't covered in aphids either.

I'm wondering if something else is going on, or if this one rose is just finding it a bit hard to settle in/more patience is required since this is only it's second year.

Thanks. 

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    At a maximum height of 30cm, this is a small rose even by miniature/patio rose standards so I suspect it is struggling to get established in the ground - I assume it’s in the ground since you say it’s in clay soil? Roses like clay, especially if improved with lots of organic matter, but it’s possibly being out-competed for water and nutrients by surrounding planting or because it’s small you are thinking it needs less water and rose feed than it does? Soil does vary from place to place even in the same garden, so another possibility is that it’s just in a poor, dry spot.

    If none of those things apply and it continues to languish for the rest of the summer, I would lift it in autumn/winter and transplant it into a pot for a year, using a good loamy soil mix. JI no.3 plus some mpc for drainage and a couple of handfuls of garden soil. Prune it back at the same time and overwinter it in a sheltered spot. This will also give you an opportunity to examine the rootball and graft - occasionally the graft simply fails. 

    A bigger miniature than PP that I have planted in the front of a border is also languishing and kind of lost there, so I will be lifting it and putting it into a pot permanently. Yours may be better suited to permanent life in a pot too, it’s what minis are really designed for, after all 😊 
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  • OwlbearOwlbear Posts: 49
    Thanks for the reply Nollie.

    I had wondered if it could be down to that, and I did originally think to plant it in a pot when it was ordered, but had a spot that it would fit nicely in so thought why not try it.

    As far as feeding/watering goes I've given it the same treatment more or less as everything else. I don't generally feed stuff as a rule as nothing really seems to need it, but did fork in some "rose food" (pelleted horse manure basically.) around April. 

    I haven't watered much the past month or two but until recently it was raining every other day anyway.
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