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First rose

chhaugerchhauger Posts: 9
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Hi all!

My first post, and it's not even for me! lol

So the wife got some roses from B&Q a while back, called 'Celebration Rose Golden 50 Anniversary'. No idea what kind it is. Says it only grows 80cm tall.

Anyway! She wants to know why there is one massive stem growing on the rose, and is it safe to cut off?

Cheers!

- Chris


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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited June 2021
    Well I don’t think you’ve got what it says on the label, cos the bud is showing red … 

    I think you’ve got another type of rose altogether … but it looks jolly healthy with lots of buds. I think it would be a shame to cut off that lovely strong cane … you’ll lose lots of flowers … maybe the rose experts @Marlorena and @Nollie and the others can give some advice. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • chhaugerchhauger Posts: 9
    I think she got two different ones, one yellow and one red. Both say 'Golden' on them though. We are in the same camp then. I said leave it as well, but she thinks it looks out of place.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Nooo … the rest of the plant will catch up … there’ll be more of those strong new canes. 

    I’d probably be looking for a larger container for it tho … others may think otherwise …

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Lena_vs_DeerLena_vs_Deer Posts: 203
    edited June 2021
    I agree, there will be more for sure. Those are the ones you actually want to keep :)  I have a young rose like that right now, smaller branches shoot out flowers on a very thin “foot” and when rose blooms it becomes too heavy and blooms point down :D . The long stem is the only one being fully upright in bloom . I will probably even cut all the thinner brunches completely this year to encourage more of stronger growth. 

    Here’s mine :)
     (no bloom at the moment, removed spent blooms yesterday ) 

  • chhaugerchhauger Posts: 9
    Thank you both!

    I think the plan is to plant them on later, so pots for now. To be fair, they probably need something bigger like.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Hi Chris,

    I agree with Dove and Lena!

    Looks like what you have there are a type of rose called a ‘Hybrid Tea’, those long, strong canes (rose stems are called ‘canes’ as they shoot up from the base) are the normal growth habit, they want to grow tall and the bush will typically get to about 3-4ft and at least twice as wide.

    A compromise would be to let the long cane bloom, then cut it down roughly level with the rest. Make a slanted cut with a sharp pair of secateurs just above a strong set of five leaves and it will regrow and flower from that point, say here:


    If you can’t plant them in ground immediately (the best option) you really need to pot them on now into a bigger pot, say 30cm, as roses have deep roots and they will need more nutrition and water than the current small pots can provide. Then you can plant out in late winter/early spring, say, plus prune it down at the same time to about 6” high - that seems drastic but this type of rose rejuvenates afterwards and flowers mainly on new growth. If you don’t prune then, it will still flower, just not as well. Old and leggy canes aren’t very attractive in any case!

    For life in a permanent pot, go bigger still, up to 50cm - something like Lena’s pot. Use a good loam/soil based compost mixed with some Multi-purpose compost to aid drainage. MPC on it’s own has insufficient oomph for hungry and thirsty plants like roses. I usually add a couple of handfuls of garden soil and bagged manure to the mix as well. Roses in pots need more care, watering and feeding so be prepared to cosset them.

    Happy rose growing 😊 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • chhaugerchhauger Posts: 9
    edited June 2021
    Wow, thank you for all the information Nollie! Canes, got it! :blush:

    Hybrid Tea, what a cool name! At least we know what they are now! :#

    In this garden it's hard enough to grow green grass, so in pots they go! I will replant them this weekend.

    Thank you all for your help! <3

    - Chris
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    It might be deep secret
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    You’re very welcome Chris - if you have any further questions, don’t hesitate to ask and do post some pix when in bloom and we could attempt an ID of the red - which could well be Deep Secret @B3.

    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • chhaugerchhauger Posts: 9
    Will do!
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