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Fruit vine in a pot, will it ever bloom? (Actinidia deliciosa 'Renact' PP #23,457 - self fertilized)

Lena_vs_DeerLena_vs_Deer Posts: 203
edited June 2021 in Fruit & veg
3 years ago I bought a healthy and rather big Actinidia deliciosa 'Renact' also sub labeled as "Sweet and Solo". Supposedly a newer winter hardy self pollinating hybrid. Almost sounded too good to be true ...

Plant however survived, it is indeed winter hardy and not a difficult one to grow. Every year you need to trim it back to 3 new nodes, soil needs to be well draining ( I keep some thyme in a same pot for drainage indication like a canary).
All seems good ... but it's yet to give a single flower.

So I was wondering if anyone ever tied to grow anything similar? Usually you'd need 2 kiwis (male and female). But as mine fails to get any flowers so  I can't even see if I was bamboozled and just sold a single gender plant rather than self pollinating :) 

Or perhaps I'm missing something to make it bloom?
Or maybe a pot a bad idea in a first place for vines in general ? 

Would be happy to get any input! perhaps there are things that are common for all fruiting vines I'm getting wrong here. It looks great, just no flowers of any kind. 

Here are some specs and details that may perhaps shed some light on overlooked issue:

- It is not being additionally fed
- 3 years old since it was potted in this exact pot (it used to grow there when we lived in apartment and now kept on a balcony away from deer)
- no pest or diseases since I bought it
- prolific on leaves and long thin vines every year
- positioned on a balcony in full sun, south-west orientation
- potted in 16 inches (40 centimeter) pot, doesn't appear root bound as there's plenty of lose soil close to the edges of the pot (probed with a stick and pulled it out of pot last winter to take a look), but soil had not been refreshed as it was said that kiwi needs spent soil to grow well.

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  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    edited June 2021
    These are the flowers, Lena:
    which look like they've been pollinated and are forming fruit.  You probably missed the petal stage. :)
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • Lena_vs_DeerLena_vs_Deer Posts: 203
    edited June 2021
    @BobTheGardener I will be super happy if they are :D ! But my gut says it's not the case since there are small leaves on it. I thought those were swollen top nodes waiting to shoot out new vine.

    Here's more side photos from other part of this vine. I feel like that one may had been deceiving since it was a top view. 

    But then again, this is my first fruit vine ever ... I have no idea what's what with them :dizzy: But Kiwis are brown and fuzzy ... just like their canes ... agh this is so confusing ahaha 

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  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    edited June 2021
    The 2nd set of photos is much better and think you are right.  I'm a bit dubious about them needing poor soil though.  The RHS say: "They grow best in a fertile, well-drained slightly acid soil which is rich in organic matter.":
    Which is how I grew mine (until it died of a severe spider mite infestation.) :'(


    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • Lena_vs_DeerLena_vs_Deer Posts: 203
    edited June 2021
    hmmm sounds like it's time for some soil testing :D I have some spare kits left from garden survey :D  And maybe I should swap the soil for next year ... I imagine the worst case scenario I'll get bigger leaves haha . Need to check acidity though in what i have for now. 

    Did you get any fruits from it before infestation? My friend had one in her garden for few years with no fruit and then her gardener trimmed it too much and plant died that year. I'm yet to find any testimonies on any kiwi succeeding  :|
    Leaves sure look nice though ...  
  • EustaceEustace Posts: 2,290
    I think 🥝 take some time to get established and start flowering. I have 2 varieties - Issai and Jenny. It has taken 3 years for the first flowers to appear this year and almost a month for the buds to open. Fingers crossed that they turn into fruits.
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    And then my heart with pleasure fills,
    And dances with the daffodils (roses). Taking a bit of liberty with Wordsworth :)

  • bertrand-mabelbertrand-mabel Posts: 2,697
    We had a self fertile.....but it wasn't.
    Now we have a male and female which are very young and we have to wait and see.
    They were hit by the April frosts but now showing good growths.
  • Lena_vs_DeerLena_vs_Deer Posts: 203
    Eustace said:
    I think 🥝 take some time to get established and start flowering. I have 2 varieties - Issai and Jenny. It has taken 3 years for the first flowers to appear this year and almost a month for the buds to open. Fingers crossed that they turn into fruits.
    3 years… then mine may be getting there! … hopefully… really happy yours finally picked up!
    Any attempt to pollinate them with brush like pumpkin or just leaving it to own devices? 


  • Lena_vs_DeerLena_vs_Deer Posts: 203
    We had a self fertile.....but it wasn't.
    So far that was the sentiment towards pretty much ever kiwi I’ve seen in person heh. 
    But I won’t get rid of it even if that’s the case. Gonna give it 2 more years before setting against the wall somewhere and let it go rampant 
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