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What a stupid thing I've done with my roses

Photo one shows an old barrel which has rose 'A Shropshire Lad'.   The rose to the right of it in a pot is 'Boscobel'.  The third rose in the white pot is another 'A Shropshire Lad'.  All were fine and dandy coming along as usual until a week ago when I told a gardener friend that I was always disappointed that both the 'A Shropshire Lad' produced lovely Spring blooms - but not very many at all.  He had a look and said my problem was that I had planted them with the grafts above the soil.   Being an idiot, and thinking as they were coming in to bud, I didn't want to detach the two in pots from the trellis and try to repot them.  Instead, I stupidly (???) piled a a couple of inches of multi-p compost on them to cover the graft.   Now, all 3 roses leaves are as in the photos below.  'Boscobel' has lots of nice buds, it's early yet for my 'A Shropshire Lad' pair to bud yet - but until I did the stupid thing, they were coming along fine.

I've now scraped off most of the multi-p and am wondering if I can get these 3 roses to recover - or am I too late for that?   These roses are three (or maybe 4) year old. I have no space to put them in flower beds.  Any advice would be greatly welcomed.  Thank you.


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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I think that’s weather related. Nothing to do with the added compost. 😊 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • yarrow2yarrow2 Posts: 782
    Thanks for the response Dovefromabove.  Humidity has been very high I suppose and chilly-ish nights still with showers then a couple of hours of warmth and another shower and then a bit of sun and warmth again with temps going up for the weekend.  Being surrounded on all sides by high flats (typical Scottish tenements with back gardens around a large 'bowling green' communal area) - so each garden gets a different angle of the sun at different times of day.   I'm in the position where the sun doesn't come over the buildings in my direction until mid-morning to noon - so each garden around the central green gets completely different conditions.  I get a lot of humid - and leggy plants always desperately reaching for the sun - which also means the plants in the ground all lean in the one direction!  It's a bit of a gardening circus to be honest.

    Many thanks again.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    You haven't done any mistake and you don't have to worry about your roses.
    The graft buried or not - both have their pros and cons and both are correct, depending on the conditions. It won't affect the flowering or the health of your roses.
    Leave the compost where it is. As the plants are in pots, they will require regular feeding.
    Also, don't worry too much about spots and various foliage problems. All roses sometimes have fungal diseases, insect damage, and weather damage. They are strong plants and they usually outgrow most of these problems.
  • yarrow2yarrow2 Posts: 782
    Many thanks edhelka.   Yourself and Dove have lifted my spirits.  I appreciate the response very much.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    David Austin recommend burying the graft but I would be more concerned about the size of your pots - bit small for Shropshire Lad - and I would use John Innes no 3 rather than MPC.

    In a pot, regardless of size, they will need an annual top dressing in spring of a good, slow release fertiliser which is balanced for roses or tomatoes and they will need regular watering with occasional tonics of liquid rose or tomato feed from spring thru to mid summer to keep them happy in between the usual daily or weekly or in between waterings depending on the local heat conditions. 
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • yarrow2yarrow2 Posts: 782
    Hi Obelixx.   The roses in pots are in John Innes No 3.   When it was suggested I cover the grafts (they were at the soil line level) I put some multi-p on because I had nothing else available to me at the time.  On feeding, I always followed the David Austin advice to feed Austin rose pellets as soon as they start to leaf and then in June.  I don't know why I didn't use liquid rose feed or tomato feed at all.  I will certainly do so this year.

    Yes, the pots are on the small side although when I planted them I was assured they would do well for a few years.  But, you are right.  I need to get much bigger pots.  Not sure whether to re-pot late in the year or wait until, say, February next year - or perhaps that would be too late?

    Thanks for the response Obelixx.  I had a year without gardening and am only just getting back into it and it's amazing how I've forgotten so many common sense things in such a short time.  Keep forgetting names of plants I've had for years and can't remember how I used to do one thing or another.   Was too late to start seeds indoors this year so not wanting to miss out on sweet peas I saw some very healthy looking plants as I as passing a new place.   No labels on the pots so I grabbed a few.  Wasn't until I got home that I realised there WAS tiny print at the bottom of the pot and they're not sweet peas they are mangetout.  Something about living through this pandemic - seems to have clouded my thought process over time.  However, we who have a garden of any kind are so so very lucky and what a blessing it is.
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    Not as stupid was what I did to my potted rose yesterday... backed a car into it!
    East Yorkshire
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Ouch! 🥀 😢 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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